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    Xubuntu & snapd

    Does Xubuntu 19.10 include any snap packages? Will it download any if I install new packages? What is the distro's plan for the future regarding snapd?

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    Re: Xubuntu & snapd

    I know chromium-browser is only available in a snap package from 19.10 onwards. I gather most other packages are not forcing you to use snap yet. I think the distro's plan is for more snap packages but haven't seen any official statements to that effect. I don't know if they plan to force users to use snap in general, or to offer both packages ongoing.

    EDIT: I corrected 10.10 onwards to 19.10 onwards (typo)
    Last edited by The Cog; 4 Days Ago at 11:42 PM.

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    Re: Xubuntu & snapd

    OK. You have the same questions I do, then. I'll await more responses. Disregard that -- I have just learned that Xubuntu includes snapd, and that removing all snaps and/or ensuring it remains snap-free is difficult. This means it is not what I want.
    Last edited by richolad-k; 4 Days Ago at 09:49 PM.

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    Re: Xubuntu & snapd

    sudo apt purge snapd seemed to do it for me. I haven't seen them come back yet.
    Last edited by The Cog; 4 Days Ago at 11:44 PM.

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    Re: Xubuntu & snapd

    Quote Originally Posted by The Cog View Post
    I know chromium-browser is only available in a snap package from 10.10 onwards. I gather most other packages are not forcing you to use snap yet. I think the distro's plan is for more snap packages but haven't seen any official statements to that effect. I don't know if they plan to force users to use snap in general, or to offer both packages ongoing.
    I suspect you mean 17.10 for the chromium-browser snap, not 10.10?

    Hope this is useful for someone. No non-LTS stuff, like 19.10 here. Sorry.

    On an 18.04 machine:
    Code:
    snap list
    should show any installed snap packages. If that command isn't found, then none are installed.
    Code:
    $ snap list
    Name               Version          Rev   Tracking  Publisher   Notes
    chromium           80.0.3987.100    1026  stable    canonicalâ  -
    chromium-ffmpeg    0.1              15    stable    canonicalâ  -
    core               16-2.43.2        8592  stable    canonicalâ  core
    core18             20200124         1668  stable    canonicalâ  base
    gtk-common-themes  0.1-28-g1503258  1440  stable    canonicalâ  -
    snapd              2.43.2           6240  stable    canonicalâ  snapd
    
    $ sudo snap remove chromium chromium-ffmpeg core core18 gtk-common-themes snapd
    error: cannot remove "chromium", "chromium-ffmpeg", "core", "core18",
           "gtk-common-themes", "snapd": snap "core" is not removable: snap is used
           by the model
    Removing the DEB package for snapd looks possible. Doing that removes all the snaps too!
    Code:
    $ sudo apt purge snapd
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree       
    Reading state information... Done
    The following packages will be REMOVED:
      snapd*
    0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
    After this operation, 65.3 MB disk space will be freed.
    Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
    I answered yes! seemed to work and removed all snaps.

    Code:
    $ sudo apt install chromium-browser
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree       
    Reading state information... Done
    The following additional packages will be installed:
      adwaita-icon-theme at-spi2-core chromium-browser-l10n
    ....   ABOUT 3 PAGES OF PACKAGE LISTS ... 
    0 upgraded, 149 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
    Need to get 103 MB of archives.
    After this operation, 616 MB of additional disk space will be used.
    Do you want to continue? [Y/n] N   HELL NO!!!!
    
    $ sudo apt install --no-install-recommends chromium-browser
    .....
    0 upgraded, 74 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
    Need to get 66.4 MB of archives.
    After this operation, 255 MB of additional disk space will be used.
    Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
    ....
    74% [74 chromium-browser 31.1 MB/52.1 MB 60%]                    1,626 kB/s 12s
    ....
    After all that,
    Code:
    $ snap info
    
    Command 'snap' not found, but can be installed with:
    
    sudo apt install snapd
    
    $ dpkg -l |grep chromium
    ii  chromium-browser   65.0.3325.181-0ubuntu1    amd64  Chromium web browser, open-source version of Chrome
    But 79.0.3945.130-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 is the current version on my 16.04 desktop systems. Seems Chromium has been abandoned as a deb package on 18.04.

    Firefox it will be. Good news, Firefox in the 18.04 .deb repos looks to be current. 73.0+build3-0ubuntu0.18.04.1

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    Re: Xubuntu & snapd

    Quote Originally Posted by TheFu View Post
    Seems Chromium has been abandoned as a deb package on 18.04.
    Chromium from a PPA is preferable anyway, because of the VA-API support.
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