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    xHE-AAC

    do any of you know anything about this codec mentioned here by Andrew in this excellent howto

    He says early days


    wiki

    any news? any idea how to test find samples and more importantly to convert to

    xHE-AAC: Otherwise known as "Extended High Efficiency AAC". This is the most recent addition to the AAC family and it aims to unify speech and music encoding primarily for broadcast with high quality encoding at low bitrates. As far as I know there is no Linux encoder available yet and the few samples I have found have been unplayable on Linux. Early days...

    Thanx


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    Re: xHE-AAC

    Hey Shan . I never did find too much more about that one...
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    Re: xHE-AAC

    Somewhat piqued again by xHE-AAC I have investigated a little further and sent an email to Fraunhofer IIS regarding use and licensing. Looks like there are no immediate plans for releasing the encoder / decoder that most people are keen for . Mandy (Head of Marketing Communications Audio & Media Technologies Division) sent the following very polite message back to me:

    thanks for your mail and your interest in our technology. Unfortunately we are offering our software
    only for manufacturers or hard- or software to implement it into their products. We are only a B-2-B
    operating company.

    We hope that in the near future we can see offers for audio encoders such as the Sonnox tools to
    include xHE into their products.
    So keen audiophiles will have to wait a fair while before coming to grips with xHE-AAC...
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    Re: xHE-AAC

    Thanx Andrew and hi and Yellow Pasque

    WE'll await .....
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    Re: xHE-AAC

    Quote Originally Posted by shantiq View Post
    Thanx Andrew and hi and Yellow Pasque

    WE'll await .....
    Allow me to make your day Shan, or even your year perhaps:

    How do I produce xHE-AAC files under Ubuntu?
    https://askubuntu.com/q/1224198/57576

    Happily producing xHE-AAC files here for the last hour, I won't easily forget the excitement of producing my very first one
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    Re: xHE-AAC

    Andrew you are a WIZARD!

    Will very soon give it a whirl and report

    Hope all good with you and yours Down Under

    Peace

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    Re: xHE-AAC

    You really are a wizard

    Install + Conversion went swimmingly

    Tried Mplayer/Mpv/ffmplay no dice for me .... but you may have more recent versions on your system which do


    But Foobar plugin here see below pic [then i realized you had put that info on the askubuntu but i leave it anyway for other visitors]


    This component replaces the stock input component's AAC decoder with the one from FDK-AAC v2.0.1, to support AAC formats not supported by FFmpeg, such as xHE-AAC / USAC.
    ===================

    Of course you know what i am gonna say ? ABCDE? to keep you busy in this odd phase





    ============

    mediainfo is not put out tho

    Code:
    mediainfo 01\ -\ Microbes.m4a General
    Complete name                            : 01 - Microbes.m4a
    Format                                   : MPEG-4
    Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
    Codec ID                                 : mp42 (mp42/isom)
    File size                                : 5.41 MiB
    Duration                                 : 3 min 45 s
    Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Overall bit rate                         : 201 kb/s
    Encoded date                             : UTC 1954-04-05 08:54:53
    Tagged date                              : UTC 1954-04-05 08:55:16
    
    
    Audio
    ID                                       : 1
    Format                                   : AAC
    Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
    Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-42
    Duration                                 : 3 min 45 s
    Source duration                          : 3 min 45 s
    Source_Duration_LastFrame                : -13 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Variable
    Bit rate                                 : 201 kb/s
    Maximum bit rate                         : 342 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Stream size                              : 5.37 MiB (99%)
    Source stream size                       : 5.37 MiB (99%)
    Title                                    : crh
    Encoded date                             : UTC 1954-04-05 08:54:53
    Tagged date                              : UTC 1954-04-05 08:55:16
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    Re: xHE-AAC

    It would be quite easy to add support for exhale / xHE-AAC to abcde but I guess the big issue at the moment would be playback. The tipping point will be when support arrives in avcodec...

    BTW your copy of mediainfo must be a little old, mine shows:

    Code:
    andrew@ilium~$ mediainfo luckynight_USAC.m4a 
    General
    Complete name                            : luckynight_USAC.m4a
    Format                                   : MPEG-4
    Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
    Codec ID                                 : mp42 (mp42/isom)
    File size                                : 766 KiB
    Duration                                 : 1 min 0 s
    Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Overall bit rate                         : 104 kb/s
    Encoded date                             : UTC 1954-04-05 10:13:07
    Tagged date                              : UTC 1954-04-05 10:13:11
    
    Audio
    ID                                       : 1
    Format                                   : USAC
    Format/Info                              : Unified Speech and Audio Coding
    Commercial name                          : xHE-AAC
    Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-42
    Duration                                 : 1 min 0 s
    Source duration                          : 1 min 0 s
    Source_Duration_LastFrame                : -18 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Variable
    Bit rate                                 : 104 kb/s
    Maximum bit rate                         : 162 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
    Channel layout                           : L R
    Sampling rate                            : 44.1 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Stream size                              : 755 KiB (98%)
    Source stream size                       : 755 KiB (99%)
    Title                                    : crh
    Encoded date                             : UTC 1954-04-05 10:13:07
    Tagged date                              : UTC 1954-04-05 10:13:11
    Sample peak level                        : -0.188 dBFS
    Program loudness                         : -18.25 LKFS
    
    
    andrew@ilium~$
    And I suspect that I don't have the very latest:

    Code:
    andrew@ilium~$ mediainfo --version
    MediaInfo Command line, 
    MediaInfoLib - v19.04
    andrew@ilium~$
    Of course tagging would be easy enough to add with AtomicParsley, so perhaps this would be enough:

    Code:
    exhale 3 luckynight.wav luckynight_USAC.m4a && \
    AtomicParsley luckynight_USAC.m4a \
                  --album "Treasure Quest Soundtrack" \
                  --artist "Jody Marie Gnant" \
                  --tracknum "9" \
                  --title "Lucky Night" \
                  --genre "Soundtrack" \
                  --year "1995" \
                  --comment "Testing exhale encoding..." \
                  --overWrite
    Very exciting times
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    Re: xHE-AAC

    mediainfo --version
    MediaInfo Command line,
    MediaInfoLib - v17.12





    So went to https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo/Download/Ubuntu

    and now got:

    Code:
    mediainfo 01\ -\ Microbes.m4a General
    Complete name                            : 01 - Microbes.m4a
    Format                                   : MPEG-4
    Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
    Codec ID                                 : mp42 (mp42/isom)
    File size                                : 5.41 MiB
    Duration                                 : 3 min 45 s
    Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Overall bit rate                         : 201 kb/s
    Encoded date                             : UTC 1954-04-05 08:54:53
    Tagged date                              : UTC 1954-04-05 08:55:16
    
    
    Audio
    ID                                       : 1
    Format                                   : USAC
    Format/Info                              : Unified Speech and Audio Coding
    Commercial name                          : xHE-AAC
    Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-42
    Duration                                 : 3 min 45 s
    Source duration                          : 3 min 45 s
    Source_Duration_LastFrame                : -13 ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Variable
    Bit rate                                 : 201 kb/s
    Maximum bit rate                         : 342 kb/s
    Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
    Channel layout                           : L R
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
    Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Stream size                              : 5.37 MiB (99%)
    Source stream size                       : 5.37 MiB (99%)
    Title                                    : crh
    Encoded date                             : UTC 1954-04-05 08:54:53
    Tagged date                              : UTC 1954-04-05 08:55:16
    Sample peak level                        : -3.562 dBFS
    Program loudness                         : -15.75 LKFS
    Code:
    mediainfo --versionMediaInfo Command line, 
    MediaInfoLib - v20.03
    Last edited by shantiq; April 5th, 2020 at 04:22 PM.
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