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    PPA's that aren't current

    There are two PPA's out there that I use for Kubuntu. They are not available yet for Eoan Ermine 19.10.

    Grub Customizer
    https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter...rub-customizer

    Ubuntu Cleaner
    https://launchpad.net/~gerardpuig/+archive/ubuntu/ppa

    Do I have to wait until the author updates these programs, or is there a way to run the older version until the new one comes out?

    P.S. Yes, I have noticed that Ubuntu Cleaner has an Eoan version, but it does not work. It was uploaded July 17th.
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    Re: PPA's that aren't current

    It depends on the specifics of the package.

    There was something - I can't remember what any more - that I grabbed and installed from packages.ubuntu because it had been dropped from the repositories for newer releases. Whatever it was was old and crusty, and, importantly, didn't change anything else on the system.

    The sensible thing to do is to simply wait, or find a newer PPA, or use a snap or similar. Only you know your own balance between patience and tolerance for complete breakage.
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    Re: PPA's that aren't current

    I do my own grub custom settings.
    Depends on what you want to do and/or how complicated it is.
    Grub has now changed from 2.02 to 2.04 and grub customizer creates its own scripts, so would need major updates.
    How to: Create a Customized GRUB2 Screen that is Maintenance Free.- Cavsfan
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    https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ma...-manual-config
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/CustomMenus
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2076205

    I also run my own script to houseclean. Simple bash file with multiple commands. Originally just a few lines. But over time added more & more.
    https://askubuntu.com/questions/6570...e-on-ubuntu-14
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    Re: PPA's that aren't current

    The Ubuntu Cleaner ppa has an eoan archive.
    (I missed the PS. new comment below)

    And personally, I found it quicker, and quite frankly easier, to DIY grub myself.
    This helped: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ma...tomGrub2Screen


    Edit: Snoozed, so I lost.
    ninja'd by oldfred, who posted good links beyond just the wiki.


    To add: I just noticed the Ubuntu Cleaner package in the ppa hasn't been updated for almost 3 years.
    If it doesn't work probably to be expected. With it being such an outdated pieces of software by now.
    ( and with all the changes that have taken place in the last 3 years,
    I would think it was running on fumes and inertia...)
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    Re: PPA's that aren't current

    There is no independent or organized or systematic testing of the PPAs, so in general, you take a risk, when you use them. With that said,

    - several PPAs are well maintained and have a good reputation,

    - some PPAs lag behind and are not available until some time after a new Ubuntu version is released. The developer/maintainer may be busy with other tasks ...

    - some PPAs depend on features that may change between Ubuntu versions, and you should wait for a PPA version for the new Ubuntu version until you start using it,

    - some PPAs are designed to be as independent as possible of features that change between Ubuntu versions. One example is ppa:mkusb/ppa, that is developed and maintained by me. It uses bash shellscripts, that call standard programs, that will not change much between Ubuntu versions. The mkusb versions for all current versions of Ubuntu are exactly the same, I copy them from a master version after testing that they work in the various versions of Ubuntu. So in this case you could use a PPA from an older version, if it is not yet available in the newest version, but I try to provide versions early for the developing versions, so you should not need that.

    It is a good idea to have a test system, a [persistent] live system or an installed system in a USB drive or installed alongside your main operating system. You can test various things in such a system, for example PPAs, before you start using them in your main operating system.

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    Re: PPA's that aren't current

    Grub Customizer is available from the repository.
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    Re: PPA's that aren't current

    So, what is a good alternative for Ubuntu-Cleaner?
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    Re: PPA's that aren't current

    Original Topic kind of changed here.... but here's some worth consideration: https://www.tecmint.com/ccleaner-alt...es-for-ubuntu/
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    Re: PPA's that aren't current

    Quote Originally Posted by 1fallen View Post
    but here's some worth consideration: https://www.tecmint.com/ccleaner-alt...es-for-ubuntu/
    I've looked into some of those already, but they don't seem to do the same thing that Ubuntu-Cleaner does.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1fallen View Post
    Original Topic kind of changed here...
    Let me steer us back on course then. Is there anyway to make the current PPA work? It's missing some dependencies, and I don't know how to add them.
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    Re: PPA's that aren't current

    The following link describes how to make an Ubuntu PPA work with Debian,

    Add the PPA manually to the file '/etc/apt/sources.list'

    Maybe it will give you enough information in order to try using an old PPA in your current version of Ubuntu. This may or may not work. It may even create problems with other parts of your Ubuntu system.

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