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Thread: Why in Linux there is no Photoshop and other Creative Cloud programs?

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    Re: Why in Linux there is no Photoshop and other Creative Cloud programs?

    Quote Originally Posted by mastablasta View Post
    correct. another interesting thing - if the 10 mio CC subscribers number is true that would make it less than Ubuntu desktop users (estimated number of Ubuntu users was about 20 million).
    Yes. Like I said, CC is actually a pretty specialized software suite. The number of people who need Photoshop is pretty small. It's far fewer than need basic photo editing software, which comes on any iPhone or Android phone.

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    Re: Why in Linux there is no Photoshop and other Creative Cloud programs?

    Quote Originally Posted by pxllime View Post
    GIMP developers don't have good funding.
    They will have good funding if everyone who uses PS and plan on switching would donate maybe 1/10 of PS's cost to GIMP.

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    Re: Why in Linux there is no Photoshop and other Creative Cloud programs?

    Gimp is comparable to Photoshop... version 4 (1996). If you need to crop some pictures and adjust the contrast, gimp is great. If you need to do the kind of work graphic designers are expected to do, you're out of luck. Maybe you're a web developer and you don't need to do much beyond cut parts out of UI design.The designer just sent you a Photoshop file. Good luck having what opens look anything like what they designed. This could work out in your favor, maybe you can get the designer to prepare all your asset files for web. Sometimes they know how and are not under just as much pressure as you. sometimes.

    I guess you'll just have to go over to windows. It might seem pretty cool at first, but when that NTFS partition starts to degrade and all your programs start crashing. Maybe you'll boot your Linux partition and start reading forum posts about "why tf can't there just be a Creative Cloud on Linux?" You'll find the question has been asked over and over again.

    I'm convinced that if adobe ported their software to Linux, that would pretty much be the end for apple. We used to have this terrible coffee at a company I worked for. I was talking to the hr guy and I mentioned. "Hey, you know that coffee we have is the worst coffee I've ever had in my life, why don't we get something different? Cafe Bustello is 2$ for a 10oz package, and it's surprisingly good"

    He said, "well, we have a relationship with the company that does the coffee and vending machines"


    It seems like a lot of things in this world work that way...


    Too bad they don't have a "relationship" with the people that depend on their software for their careers. We're fine though, what kind of loser doesn't have an extra 3000$ to spend on a mac, or however much they're charging for them now. They're really more of a fashion accessory at this point aren't they? Surely you have an extra several hours a week to spend reinstalling windows or troubleshooting all of the random failures that inevitably occur on that toy operating system? No? Hmm... well sleep is overrated anyway.

    Here's a number of interesting threads on the subject from the past decade. They seem to end up deleted fairly often. I've been noticing a lot of deleted forum threads lately. I've been noticing a huge decrease in participation in actual forums. Is this is the fate of our collective knowledge in this throw away social-media culture. Well, I'm making it a point to make an account and participate on every forum I read from here on. Perhaps on some, I'll have little to offer beyond a negative attitude, but I'm not gonna sit back while the web outside of facebook and instagram fades into obscurity.


    https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2444095

    https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1057800


    https://web.archive.org/web/20140827180332/https://getsatisfaction.com/adobe/topics/produce_creative_suite_for_linux


    https://web.archive.org/web/20150501233559/https://getsatisfaction.com/adobe/topics/produce_creative_suite_for_linux


    https://web.archive.org/web/20150501235025/https://getsatisfaction.com/adobe/topics/creative_suite_for_linux_thread_2?topic-reply-list
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    https://web.archive.org/web/20150501...r_june_06_2014

    https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2063102&page=6

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    Re: Why in Linux there is no Photoshop and other Creative Cloud programs?

    Only Adobe could answer your question...Its my guess, they too don't want to invest in R&D of Linux based photoshop like applications....

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    Re: Why in Linux there is no Photoshop and other Creative Cloud programs?

    Quote Originally Posted by pxllime View Post
    Peugeot and Fiat available for all, Photoshop and GIMP is not
    Welcome to the real world.

    Companies choose where they will spend their money to make products. They do it based on where they think they can earn a profit that is sufficient to make the effort (time+money) worth it. Not just the porting effort, but the ongoing maintenance effort for all the other years following.

    BTW, Gimp runs on almost every platform and it is free to use by anyone.

    I was a cross-platform C/C++ developer for over a decade - 12+ platforms including Windows and MacOS and many, many, Unixes. Porting applications is non-trivial, if you didn't plan to support them in the initial design. Since OSX is BSD and Linux is based on BSD-Unix, it isn't the OS causing the issues. Porting between Unixen is repetitively straight forward, including the GUI layers, because they all use X11.

    Apple uses a funky GUI that nobody else is allowed to touch. All code for Apple-anything is custom.

    Adobe knows how to code for X11. They make/made all sorts of Unix tools. I've used them over the decades. Photoshop not being available on Linux is a pure management decision by Adobe. Honestly, as a business owner, I agree with them on this. They do have Acrobat Reader available on pretty much every platform. That program is complex with each platform having a different font rendering setup. Plus, Acrobat has to support Type-3 fonts, so the level of understanding the glyphs to be displayed is well beyond what most programmers need to understand.

    Blaming Linux users for a company not porting their software to the platform isn't going to make Adobe port the code. If you are the USgovt and tell Adobe you are moving all your desktops to Linux, then Adobe might consider it, but anyone smaller than that doesn't have a chance. I've worked at some huge companies where we had on-site support from MSFT, Apple and Adobe. We had 5 MSFT-paid engineers in our architecture teams to help guide our choices for things that weren't available, but promised. We also would make requests to have some core problems, confirmed problems, fixed, and would get nowhere with any of those companies.
    Ever noticed how Windows can't keep accurate time? We did too. It has been a known problem since 1995, but they won't fix it. It is still a problem. They think that +/- 5 minutes is accurate enough. Just this week I had to adjust a Windows PC clock that was off 3 minutes. I run an internal time server using a GPS device time. All my systems keep micro-sec accurate time, except 2 Windows machines. They use the same time server and are setup to sync every 15 minutes, but still they cannot keep the correct time. By default, Windows gets external time once a week. Doing that and those machines were losing over 30 minutes a day. It isn't like NTP is some magical thing. It has been around many decades and it works very, very, well. MSFT has implemented a compatible version of it too ... but it doesn't work.

    Anyways, adobe has heard every argument before. Even if you showed up with $100M for them to port it, they won't.

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