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    Re: Ubuntu 16.04 crashes with 4.4.0-108 kernel

    Quote Originally Posted by djchandler View Post
    …Just got upgraded to kernel 4.13.0-26. AFAIK, this is the latest kernel available. I suggest everyone hold on until this gets to you…
    Quote Originally Posted by del6 View Post
    I was running 4.10 got pushed to 4.13 I'm pretty sure both 4.13.0-25 and -26 both black screened me as did 4.0.0-109 (not to worried about that) so I'm currently running 4.10.0-42-generic, anyone else in the same position?
    Please note that this thread is specifically about the 4.4.0-108 problem. The 4.4.0-x kernel series is still a legitimate kernel series and many users have not elected to go to the HWE kernels for Xenial. So this is just a friendly reminder not to hijack this thread. Those who are using the HWE kernels should start their own thread or join the general Meltdown and Spectre Discussion thread.

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    Re: Ubuntu 16.04 crashes with 4.4.0-108 kernel

    Quote Originally Posted by DuckHook View Post
    Please note that this thread is specifically about the 4.4.0-108 problem. The 4.4.0-x kernel series is still a legitimate kernel series and many users have not elected to go to the HWE kernels for Xenial. So this is just a friendly reminder not to hijack this thread. Those who are using the HWE kernels should start their own thread or join the general Meltdown and Spectre Discussion thread.
    Good point, but there will be users who are confused over such subtle differences between the various kernels and quite often search engines and social media will direct them to this thread.

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    Re: Ubuntu 16.04 crashes with 4.4.0-108 kernel

    Thank you flix3. I was wandering why the system wasn't updating to the 109 version when doing:

    Code:
    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get upgrade
    Now I see I must do it directly:
    Code:
    sudo apt-get install linux-headers-4.4.0-109 linux-headers-4.4.0-109-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-4.4.0-109-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-109-generic linux-image-generic linux-tools-4.4.0-109 linux-tools-4.4.0-109-generic linux-tools-generic
    I will do it when I arrive home.

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    Re: Ubuntu 16.04 crashes with 4.4.0-108 kernel

    Quote Originally Posted by vic-0611 View Post
    Thank you flix3. I was wandering why the system wasn't updating to the 109 version when doing:

    Code:
    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get upgrade
    Actually, the apt-get upgrade command will not upgrade kernels. You need to do:
    Code:
    sudo apt-get update
    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

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    Re: Ubuntu 16.04 crashes with 4.4.0-108 kernel

    Maybe I'm wrong, but as far as I remember, update+upgrade have been enough to get kernel updates.
    Depends on which apt command.
    If apt-get, then no, that will only install updates for packages that already exist on your system.
    apt-get upgrade will never install a new kernel.

    If apt, then yes apt upgrade will install new kernels.

    You can read the more technical description in the manpages
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    man apt
    man apt-get
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    Re: Ubuntu 16.04 crashes with 4.4.0-108 kernel

    Quote Originally Posted by vic-0611 View Post
    …I tried first update + dist-upgrade but it didn't work:

    So I went for the initial plan:

    Code:
    sudo apt-get install linux-headers-4.4.0-109 linux-headers-4.4.0-109-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-4.4.0-109-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-109-generic linux-image-generic linux-tools-4.4.0-109 linux-tools-4.4.0-109-generic linux-tools-generic
    Hmmm…

    There's nothing wrong with installing a specific kernel directly, but you must keep in mind that apt will now mark that package manually installed and not automatic. That means that you will need to manually purge it when it is superseded by new kernels.

    I am more perplexed by the fact that dist-upgrade didn't work. Did you, perchance, remove the linux-generic package from your system? Please post results of:
    Code:
    apt policy linux-generic
    …and:
    Code:
    dpkg --get-selections | grep linux

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    Re: Ubuntu 16.04 crashes with 4.4.0-108 kernel

    Hello DuckHook,

    Here are the results:

    Code:
    sudo apt policy linux-generic
    linux-generic:
      Instalados: (ninguno)
      Candidato:  4.4.0.109.114
      Tabla de versión:
         4.4.0.109.114 500
            500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main amd64 Packages
            500 http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 Packages
         4.4.0.21.22 500
            500 http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 Packages
    Code:
     dpkg --get-selections | grep linux
    console-setup-linux                install
    libselinux1:amd64                install
    linux-base                    install
    linux-firmware                    install
    linux-headers-4.4.0-104                install
    linux-headers-4.4.0-104-generic            install
    linux-headers-4.4.0-109                install
    linux-headers-4.4.0-109-generic            install
    linux-headers-generic                install
    linux-image-4.4.0-101-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-103-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-104-generic            install
    linux-image-4.4.0-109-generic            install
    linux-image-4.4.0-21-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-22-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-24-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-28-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-31-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-34-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-36-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-38-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-43-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-45-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-47-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-51-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-53-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-57-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-59-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-62-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-63-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-64-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-66-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-70-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-71-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-72-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-75-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-77-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-78-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-79-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-81-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-83-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-87-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-89-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-92-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-93-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-96-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-97-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-4.4.0-98-generic            deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-101-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-103-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-104-generic        install
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-109-generic        install
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-21-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-22-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-24-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-28-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-31-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-34-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-36-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-38-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-43-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-45-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-47-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-51-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-53-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-57-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-59-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-62-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-63-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-64-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-66-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-70-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-71-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-72-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-75-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-77-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-78-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-79-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-81-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-83-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-87-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-89-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-92-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-93-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-96-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-97-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-extra-4.4.0-98-generic        deinstall
    linux-image-generic                install
    linux-libc-dev:amd64                install
    linux-sound-base                install
    linux-tools-4.4.0-109                install
    linux-tools-4.4.0-109-generic            install
    linux-tools-common                install
    linux-tools-generic                install
    pptp-linux                    install
    syslinux                    install
    syslinux-common                    install
    syslinux-legacy                    install
    util-linux                    install
    Just in case a translation is needed:

    ninguno => none

    "Version table", "installed" and "candidate" are quite obvious...

    Thank you for your time!

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    Re: Ubuntu 16.04 crashes with 4.4.0-108 kernel

    As I suspected, the reason you are not getting results from apt-get dist-upgrade is because you are missing the linux-generic package. You may have deleted it accidentally while trying to fix 4.4.0-108. But that's not really important now. To fix this:
    Code:
    sudo apt install linux-generic
    Thereafter, you will be able to keep upgraded to the most current kernel whenever you do:
    Code:
    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
    When the next few kernels arrive, and all is well, and you don't want an old kernel like 4.4.0-109 hanging around, remember to purge it manually. Otherwise, it will perpetually exist in your system because you installed it manually this time. Don't do this until at least three new kernels have been installed. You always want a set of old kernels to fall back on.

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    Re: Ubuntu 16.04 crashes with 4.4.0-108 kernel

    Thank you for the information. Now linux-generic package is not missing:

    Code:
    sudo apt policy linux-generic
    linux-generic:
      Instalados: 4.4.0.109.114
      Candidato:  4.4.0.109.114
      Tabla de versión:
     *** 4.4.0.109.114 500
            500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main amd64 Packages
            500 http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 Packages
            100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
         4.4.0.21.22 500
            500 http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 Packages
    For purging 109 version when the time arrives, I guess will be enough with:

    Code:
    sudo sudo apt-get purge linux-image-4.4.0-109 linux-headers-4.4.0-109 linux-headers--4.4.0-109

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    Re: Ubuntu 16.04 crashes with 4.4.0-108 kernel

    For purging 109 version when the time arrives, I guess will be enough with:
    <snip>
    Just run
    Code:
    sudo apt autoremove --purge
    this can/will clear out the old kernels, leaving the last/latest two (it leaves two so you have at least one to fall back on in case the most recent one has issues.)
    Only issue with autoremove is that it can remove packages you might want to keep if those packages were originally installed to satisfy the requirements of another package which has since been removed, a little quirk.

    If you want a simply way to remove old kernels without any potential fuss you can use the purge-old-kernels command which is built into the package byobu
    Code:
    sudo apt install byobu
    then run
    Code:
    sudo purge-old-kernels
    the default is to remove all but two, since that is the standard.
    But you can add a parameter to keep more (or less)
    Code:
    sudo purge-old-kernels --keep #
    replace # with the number you want to keep.

    More at the man page: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/...kernels.1.html
    (But really, not a lot more.)
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