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    Where will I find a list of viable repositories to add?

    A couple days ago I reinstalled Kubuntu 14.04 after seeing many failures of more modern Debian based distros.

    I'm having problems getting stock 14.04 repos to refresh. As configured by a fresh install, the repos rarely refresh flawlessly nor quickly.
    Today, almost nothing happens at all. VERY slow. So far today, 20+ minutes and finally all the repositories have refreshed. Yet I composed, fact checked, link checked and edited this post, staying in the forum all the while. My internet connection is certainly not at fault.


    To help myself, I want to see if I need to change repository mirrors, and one necessary step for that is knowing what repository mirrors to select.


    I see a lot of URLs talking about how to add repos using muon, using synaptic, using the command line, etcetera, but I really have no ideas what to add.

    I Bing-ed "kubuntu official repositories". Bing, the MS search engine.

    The top entry I got was: "Repositories/Kubuntu - Community Help Wiki", Sounds like a good result, so I went there.

    That page shows me what I will see on a screen when adding a repo (a repo that you already know about), Early on, it offers this sentence with a link to a different page:
    Quote Originally Posted by Repositories/Kubuntu
    You can find more information about the Repositories here..
    So I went there. The word 'repository' does not appear on that page. (Uhh, really? Link check, please!)

    Anyways, the assumption always seems to be that you already know the URL of the repositories, and I need to change my setup because of reloading issues when I refresh in Synaptic. Several days now.

    Again, this is a fresh install of 'Kubuntu 14.04.nothing i386', installed on 2017 08 20. The md5sum of what I downloaded matches the md5sum for 'kubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso', so what I have is not 14.04.1/2/3/4/5. Not yet interested in jumping away from 14.04, since I know how well this exact iso worked when it was installed last year.

    As I posted a few sentences above, I already have links showing me the procedure.

    Where do I find a list of appropriate (i.e. recently curated and still serving files) repository mirrors for Kubuntu 14.04?
    Last edited by QIII; August 24th, 2017 at 04:39 PM. Reason: Fix typo --> MS
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    Re: Where will I find a list of viable repositories to add?

    Does Kubuntu have 'Software and Updates' or something like it? In there. First tab. Choose your mirror.

    Doubtful a fresh install of Kubuntu is going to land you at a dodgy mirror, but I generally change my mirror to one that my ISP allows free uploads and downloads to and from. Cool. You might want to experiment and change to a mirror in your country. See what works best. Also, open a terminal and:
    Code:
    sudo apt autoremove
    sudo apt update
    sudo apt full-upgrade
    This last command WON'T upgrade your OS to a newer release, just the software in your current release.

    Did any of those commands throw any errors? If so, post them here between code tags, please.

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    Re: Where will I find a list of viable repositories to add?

    You may find a list of repository mirrors here. You don't need to look for specific Kubuntu repos. Remember that any repo may be under heavy load from time to time, which will slow down the update process.

    Also, please see my edit above and have a look at the Ubuntu Forums Rules. In particular:

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    Re: Where will I find a list of viable repositories to add?

    You might also like to look at the site at http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ which will produce a sources.list file for you and allow you to choose your country and add many ppa repos as well if you wish, including some for kubuntu backports.

    Save the text it produces, name it sources.list in your home somewhere, then rename the current /etc/apt/sources.list file as a backup just in case, and finally move the version in your home to /etc/apt/.

    As you kept the old version as a backup you can easily restore that if necessary.

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    Re: Where will I find a list of viable repositories to add?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky Ball View Post
    Doubtful a fresh install of Kubuntu is going to land you at a dodgy mirror, but I generally change my mirror to one that my ISP allows free uploads and downloads to and from. Cool. You might want to experiment and change to a mirror in your country.
    The command line provides a clue: I'm hanging for several minutes at us.archive.ubuntu.com (which is in my country), then, after simply waiting, the floodgates open.
    Providing what I feel is the most relevant statement:
    Code:
    Get:19 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe youtube-dl all 2014.02.17-1 [237 kB]
    Fetched 5,835 kB in 4min 3s (24.0 kB/s)
    Note that this long time before opening the floodgates isn't visible in what I've posted, but the cited code contains the mirror name that my command line of sudo apt-get install foo (and sudo apt install foo) will hang on for several minutes, I just wanted to provide that the time wasn't me making exaggerated statements, the fetch statement is from a sessions of 'sudo apt install youtube-dl' that I just executed at around 6:45 p.m. eastern U.S. time.

    QIII: thanks for the correction.



    Possibly I checked a checkbox during install which was sub-optimal, but the http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ remains the same server for both source and non source repos; would the source repository selections be to blame? Well, I suppose I could simply uncheck and refresh in Synaptic and try another run; the problem has been pretty consistent at 4 slows for 4 attempts. While I test my last suggestion:
    mmmmna@Kubuntu-1404-MCP61SM2MA:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
    #deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 14.04 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release i386 (20140416.1)]/ trusty main multiverse restricted universe

    # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
    # newer versions of the distribution.
    deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main restricted
    deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main restricted

    ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
    ## distribution.
    deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates main restricted
    deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates main restricted

    ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
    ## team. Also, please note that software in universe WILL NOT receive any
    ## review or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
    deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty universe
    deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty universe
    deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates universe
    deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates universe

    ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
    ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
    ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
    ## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
    ## security team.
    deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty multiverse
    deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty multiverse
    deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates multiverse
    deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates multiverse

    ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
    ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
    ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
    ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
    ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
    deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
    deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-backports main restricted universe multiverse

    deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security main restricted
    deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security main restricted
    deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security universe
    deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security universe
    deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security multiverse
    deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security multiverse

    ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's
    ## 'partner' repository.
    ## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by Canonical and the
    ## respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu users.
    # deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty partner
    # deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty partner

    ## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by third-party
    ## developers who want to ship their latest software.
    deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
    deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main
    mmmmna@Kubuntu-1404-MCP61SM2MA:~$
    Will try/post sudo apt autoremove, sudo apt update, sudo apt full-upgrade if unselecting deb-src does not fix my issues.
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    Post Re: Where will I find a list of viable repositories to add?

    In Synaptic, I unchecked deb-src repositories if they had us.archive.ubuntu.com in the URL, I went to a command line, refreshed and got this for several minutes (no, this is not an edit error):
    Code:
    mmmmna@Kubuntu-1404-MCP61SM2MA:~$ sudo apt update
    [sudo] password for mmmmna: 
    0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::19)] [Connecting to sec
    It ended at sec. Yes, Konsole was wide enough, no, the line was not wrapped below.
    The session would eventually get past a stall on one repo, step through some other repo URLs in quick order, but each time it chose another us.archive.ubuntu.com, it would stall, and only part of the line was printed on screen when the stall happens.

    Well, maybe not just us.archive.ubuntu.com. As of now, I'm getting a stall at
    Code:
    100% [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1560:8001::11)]
    And when it finally completed, I got this:
    Code:
    mmmmna@Kubuntu-1404-MCP61SM2MA:~$ sudo apt update
    [sudo] password for mmmmna: 
    Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty InRelease                                  
    Get:1 http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty Release.gpg [72 B]                       
    Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty Release                                    
    Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty/main Sources                               
    Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty/main i386 Packages                         
    Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en_US                     
    Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en                        
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty InRelease                              
    Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates InRelease [65.9 kB]          
    Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports InRelease                    
    Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release.gpg                            
    Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main i386 Packages [960 kB]  
    Get:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted i386 Packages [16.9 kB]
    Get:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe i386 Packages [425 kB]
    Get:6 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/multiverse i386 Packages [14.7 kB]
    Get:7 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main Translation-en [502 kB] 
    Get:8 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/multiverse Translation-en [7,430 B]
    Get:9 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted Translation-en [3,978 B]
    Get:10 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/universe Translation-en [228 kB]
    Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release                                
    Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/main i386 Packages           
    Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/restricted i386 Packages     
    Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/universe i386 Packages       
    Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/multiverse i386 Packages     
    Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/main Translation-en          
    Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/multiverse Translation-en    
    Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/restricted Translation-en    
    Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-backports/universe Translation-en      
    Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main i386 Packages                     
    Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted i386 Packages               
    Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe i386 Packages                 
    Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/multiverse i386 Packages               
    Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en                    
    Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/multiverse Translation-en              
    Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted Translation-en              
    Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Translation-en                
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en_US                 
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/multiverse Translation-en_US           
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted Translation-en_US           
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Translation-en_US             
    Get:11 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security InRelease [65.9 kB]          
    Get:12 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main Sources [140 kB]
    Get:13 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted Sources [4,955 B] 
    Get:14 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe Sources [62.3 kB]   
    Get:15 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/multiverse Sources [3,193 B] 
    Get:16 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main i386 Packages [607 kB]  
    Get:17 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted i386 Packages [13.7 kB]
    Get:18 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe i386 Packages [184 kB]
    Get:19 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/multiverse i386 Packages [4,280 B]
    Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main Translation-en             
    Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/multiverse Translation-en       
    Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted Translation-en    
    Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe Translation-en         
    Fetched 3,309 kB in 12min 3s (4,573 B/s)
    3.3 megabytes in just over 12 minutes. I am using 802.11G gear which does not stall like this. I surf DURING the stall, my network works fine for browsers during the stall.

    As requested:
    sudo apt autoremove
    Code:
    mmmmna@Kubuntu-1404-MCP61SM2MA:~$ sudo apt autoremove
    E: Invalid operation autoremove
    mmmmna@Kubuntu-1404-MCP61SM2MA:~$
    More on this below.

    sudo apt update
    Code:
    mmmmna@Kubuntu-1404-MCP61SM2MA:~$ sudo apt update
    0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::16)] [Connecting to sec
    Stalls at us.archive.ubuntu.com

    Before I did the full-upgrade, I saw that autoremove is only an option to apt-get, so:
    Code:
    mmmmna@Kubuntu-1404-MCP61SM2MA:~$ sudo apt-get autoremove
    [sudo] password for mmmmna: 
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree       
    Reading state information... Done
    0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
    mmmmna@Kubuntu-1404-MCP61SM2MA:~$
    Personally, I heard that apt-get is about to be deprecated, so I'm trying to only use apt, but I understand the situation.


    sudo apt full-upgrade
    Code:
    mmmmna@Kubuntu-1404-MCP61SM2MA:~$ sudo apt full-upgrade
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree       
    Reading state information... Done
    Calculating upgrade... Done
    The following packages will be upgraded:
      libcgmanager0
    1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.                                                             
    Need to get 29.4 kB of archives.                                                                                           
    After this operation, 33.8 kB of additional disk space will be used.
    Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
    WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
      libcgmanager0
    Install these packages without verification? [y/N] n
    E: Some packages could not be authenticated
    mmmmna@Kubuntu-1404-MCP61SM2MA:~$
    Hmm. Maybe after discussion I might allow the unauthenticated package to upgrade.


    Awaiting further directions.
    Last edited by mmmmna; August 25th, 2017 at 01:06 AM. Reason: fix typos

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    Re: Where will I find a list of viable repositories to add?

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    Re: Where will I find a list of viable repositories to add?

    Code:
    mmmmna@Kubuntu-1404-MCP61SM2MA:~$ nslookup us.archive.ubuntu.com
    Server:         127.0.1.1
    Address:        127.0.1.1#53
    
    Non-authoritative answer:
    Name:   us.archive.ubuntu.com
    Address: 91.189.91.26
    Name:   us.archive.ubuntu.com
    Address: 91.189.91.23
    
    mmmmna@Kubuntu-1404-MCP61SM2MA:~$ 
    mmmmna@Kubuntu-1404-MCP61SM2MA:~$ 
    mmmmna@Kubuntu-1404-MCP61SM2MA:~$ 
    mmmmna@Kubuntu-1404-MCP61SM2MA:~$ nslookup google.com
    Server:         127.0.1.1
    Address:        127.0.1.1#53
    
    Non-authoritative answer:
    Name:   google.com
    Address: 172.217.7.14
    
    mmmmna@Kubuntu-1404-MCP61SM2MA:~$
    2 different addresses for us.archive.ubuntu.com. Is that optimal?
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    Re: Where will I find a list of viable repositories to add?

    Quote Originally Posted by mmmmna View Post
    Code:
    Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
    WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
      libcgmanager0
    Install these packages without verification? [y/N] n
    E: Some packages could not be authenticated
    mmmmna@Kubuntu-1404-MCP61SM2MA:~$
    Hmm. Maybe after discussion I might allow the unauthenticated package to upgrade.
    Yes. You should be hitting 'y' and continuing with the upgrade. You have tried different mirrors and still the same?

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    Re: Where will I find a list of viable repositories to add?

    You are implying the unauthenticated package is authentic, so I will install later.

    Chose Princeton for repositories, is just a few hundred miles away, fast and up to date as of 3 hours ago.

    Added the Princeton repos via Synaptic, both deb and deb-src.
    Opened a Konsole.
    apt update still stalls at us.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com.
    Example:
    Code:
    mmmmna@Kubuntu-1404-MCP61SM2MA:~$ sudo apt update
    Ign http://mirror.math.princeton.edu trusty InRelease                          
    Hit http://mirror.math.princeton.edu trusty Release.gpg                        
    Hit http://mirror.math.princeton.edu trusty Release                            
    Hit http://mirror.math.princeton.edu trusty/main i386 Packages                 
    Hit http://mirror.math.princeton.edu trusty/main Translation-en                
    Ign http://mirror.math.princeton.edu trusty/main Translation-en_US             
    100% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::16)] [Connecting to s
    and later, the stall on security.ubuntu.com:
    Code:
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Translation-en_US             
    100% [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1360:8001::17)]

    Should I deactivate/unselect repositories which are not Princeton?
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