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    Re: upgrade 16.04 to 16.04.2

    Quote Originally Posted by ajgreeny View Post
    Be warned that if you upgrade the hardware enablement stack now to the 16.10 version, you will start chasing your tail and have to do the same thing again in a few months time when the 16.10 HWE loses its support.
    Not anymore, as I understand it, from 16.04.2 the upgrade through the HWE stacks will be automatic as opposed to having to manually upgrade as was the case in previous LTS installs.

    I often wonder why users rush to update the HWE when the original versions in the OSs are supported for 5 years, or 3 years in the case of the other DE versions. If you need better hardware support as you have, for example, very new graphics and must use the newest xorg and kernel, it may be worthwhile, but generally it is best to stick with the default in an LTS and get the stability that comes with the system.
    I think much of the time people didn't realise the 5 years didn't apply in those cases and ended up being burned, which is why it's a moot point now, at least for the current LTS

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    Re: upgrade 16.04 to 16.04.2

    Ah! I admit I had read that but forgotten about the change, so thanks for the reminder howefield.

    I stick with LTS versions only for my main system, and do not bother with the HWE updates, as my hardware versions are not brand new, and weren't even when I purchased the machine so I have never needed the upgrades for hardware support.

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    Re: upgrade 16.04 to 16.04.2

    Quote Originally Posted by ajgreeny View Post
    I stick with LTS versions only for my main system, and do not bother with the HWE updates, as my hardware versions are not brand new, and weren't even when I purchased the machine so I have never needed the upgrades for hardware support.
    You're right, if hardware works then there is no need to upgrade. Must admit I generally prefer new bugs to old bugs so usually follow the HWE and glad it won't be so onerous this time around with 16.04. I labour under the belief that newer (probably) means performance gains

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    Re: upgrade 16.04 to 16.04.2

    Quote Originally Posted by ajgreeny View Post
    Ah! I admit I had read that but forgotten about the change, so thanks for the reminder howefield.

    I stick with LTS versions only for my main system, and do not bother with the HWE updates, as my hardware versions are not brand new, and weren't even when I purchased the machine so I have never needed the upgrades for hardware support.
    The thing is, once 16.04.2 came out, you have to hunt for 16.04 and 16.04.1 in order to avoid automatically getting on the HWE treadmill. 16.04.2 is what the download page points you to as the latest LTS release.

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    Re: upgrade 16.04 to 16.04.2

    But starting with the Yaketty kernel in 16.04.2, won't the HWE upgrade process simply feel like another regular kernel upgrade? If it gets installed automagically, it will hardly feel like a treadmill—just another kernel upgrade with a few more associated dependencies. New users who start out now with the 16.04.2 ISO will think that's the way it's always been. For the rest of us, installing the latest HWE stack will be the last time we will have to specifically do so.

    I've upgraded all of my machines including servers and VMs to the latest HWE. Everything went smoothly and no problems so far (knock-on-wood). I've even purged the old linux-generic-image from a few of them, but I admit that's getting rather cheeky and I'm not recommending it to others.

    I'm expecting future HWE upgrades to be transparent. We'll see.

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