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    DualBoot Win10/Ubuntu-Used XP Recover CD

    Hello,

    As the title says it, I messed up my dual boot, esp. Win10's. I don't have a W10 Recovery CD and grabbed XP's instead, so that at the boot screen, the choice is XP or Xenial. Of course, "XP" won't boot!

    I think I tried everything to fix it, Hiren's, UBCD, SysRescue, Live CD's,etc and Google.

    What can be done about this? Anyone ever heard of such a stupid, embarrassing situation to be in? Thanks for reading.
    ,
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    Re: DualBoot Win10/Ubuntu-Used XP Recover CD

    Whatever you messed with it can only get worse if you use an old XP recovery media.
    That said, what happened/happens exactly? You don't really say what is the problem...

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    Re: DualBoot Win10/Ubuntu-Used XP Recover CD

    Well I had W10 and Xenial's choices at boot. Having problems booting W10, I inserted XP install CD and got to r console and typed fixmbr/fixboot/exit.

    This very "wise" operation seemed to have crushed a (no doubt) messed-up W10 boot and replaced it with XP's. 'Course this won't do.
    Code:
    thierry@tilleul:~$ fdisk -l
    fdisk: cannot open /dev/ram0: Permission denied
    fdisk: cannot open /dev/ram1: Permission denied
    fdisk: cannot open /dev/ram2: Permission denied
    fdisk: cannot open /dev/ram3: Permission denied
    fdisk: cannot open /dev/ram4: Permission denied
    fdisk: cannot open /dev/ram5: Permission denied
    fdisk: cannot open /dev/ram6: Permission denied
    fdisk: cannot open /dev/ram7: Permission denied
    fdisk: cannot open /dev/ram8: Permission denied
    fdisk: cannot open /dev/ram9: Permission denied
    fdisk: cannot open /dev/ram10: Permission denied
    fdisk: cannot open /dev/ram11: Permission denied
    fdisk: cannot open /dev/ram12: Permission denied
    fdisk: cannot open /dev/ram13: Permission denied
    fdisk: cannot open /dev/ram14: Permission denied
    fdisk: cannot open /dev/ram15: Permission denied
    fdisk: cannot open /dev/sda: Permission denied
    thierry@tilleul:~$ sudo fdisk -lu
    [sudo] password for thierry: 
    Disk /dev/ram0: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    
    
    Disk /dev/ram1: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    
    
    Disk /dev/ram2: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    
    
    Disk /dev/ram3: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    
    
    Disk /dev/ram4: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    
    
    Disk /dev/ram5: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    
    
    Disk /dev/ram6: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    
    
    Disk /dev/ram7: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    
    
    Disk /dev/ram8: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    
    
    Disk /dev/ram9: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    
    
    Disk /dev/ram10: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    
    
    Disk /dev/ram11: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    
    
    Disk /dev/ram12: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    
    
    Disk /dev/ram13: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    
    
    Disk /dev/ram14: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    
    
    Disk /dev/ram15: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    
    
    Disk /dev/sda: 465.8 GiB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    Disklabel type: dos
    Disk identifier: 0x0deb5126
    
    Device     Boot     Start       End   Sectors   Size Id Type
    /dev/sda1            2048    921661    919614   449M  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    /dev/sda2          923648   1845309    921662   450M  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    /dev/sda3  *      1847296 181999552 180152257  85.9G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    /dev/sda4       181999614 976769070 794769457   379G  f W95 Ext'd (LBA)
    /dev/sda5  *    181999616 544283256 362283641 172.8G  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    /dev/sda6  *    976156672 976769070    612399   299M  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    /dev/sda7       544284672 967974911 423690240   202G 83 Linux
    /dev/sda8       967976960 976142335   8165376   3.9G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
    
    Partition 4 does not start on physical sector boundary.
    Partition table entries are not in disk order.
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    my JAMENDO * The XY sex-determination system is the sex-determination system found in humans and Z was my donor! * Tarot and Poya Sutra | * # 12755

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    Re: DualBoot Win10/Ubuntu-Used XP Recover CD

    Quote Originally Posted by xyz View Post
    Well I had W10 and Xenial's choices at boot. Having problems booting W10, I inserted XP install CD and got to r console and typed fixmbr/fixboot/exit.
    Any factory installed Windows 8.x/10 is in UEFI mode so yes, by doing what you did ("fixmbr"), now you broke everything.
    I really don't know what to suggest except reinstall everything??

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    Re: DualBoot Win10/Ubuntu-Used XP Recover CD

    With windows vista and later windows version, BCD is used as the bootloader which is totally different from the boot files used with Xp and earlier. I'm not sure why you thought and xp recovery CD would work? Why don't you have a windows 10 recovery CD? Very simple to create. It doesn't matter now as I expect you will need a full windows 10 installation DVD.

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    Re: DualBoot Win10/Ubuntu-Used XP Recover CD

    Thank you for paying attention to my problem.
    No W10 access, no creating a recovery CD. Creating one using a Live CD would not be possible, I suppose. Wish I could go out and get a brand-new MBR.
    My girlfriend uses Windows, so she's getting "nervous".
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    Re: DualBoot Win10/Ubuntu-Used XP Recover CD

    Indeed. Windows 10 recovery media is something you do with a functional OS. Some vendors like HP also have their own tools for that pre-installed. If you wait until you need it it will be too late.
    A moot point anyway because now you need installation media (not recovery) to reinstall everything.
    However, you may also ask in Windows forums; perhaps someone can suggest something I'm not aware of (because, you know, I don't use Windows and I couldn't care less for that OS); you don't need to nor should you mention the dual-boot as it has nothing to do with your problem with Windows (then and now) but is enough to flip some heads at those forums. And/or contact the vendor's customer support as they should be able to send you the full installation media (for a fee, of course).

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    Re: DualBoot Win10/Ubuntu-Used XP Recover CD

    of course "for free", as usual! And maybe you don't have a "Win-Addicted" girlfriend...and I don t want to throw her out of the "Windows" but I ll probably throw some money out ot the W......

    Thanks anyways.
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    Re: DualBoot Win10/Ubuntu-Used XP Recover CD

    That fdisk does not work on gpt partitioned drives is not unusual. There is a new fdisk with 16.04 that does work with gpt.

    Windows NTFS partitions have a backup PBR - partition boot sector. If you only ran XP repairs once, you may be able to restore a valid NTFS PBR.
    PBR - partition boot sector NTFS must be Windows
    [HowTo] Repair the bootsector of a Windows partition - YannBuntu
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootSectorFix
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1926510
    http://askubuntu.com/questions/65529.../655486#655486
    As described, testdisk has an option to "Recover NTFS boot sector from its backup"
    If Backup BS isn't available, choose RebuildBS, otherwise Windows repairs will not work
    Instructions - see #12 for NTFS partition boot sector recovery
    http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
    You want to get to this screen:
    http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestD...ector_recovery
    select [Advanced] instead of [Analyse] and select [BackupBS]
    Also check for /boot/grub in addition to /Boot

    If UEFI, you boot from UEFI boot menu, not grub if Windows has issues. Windows typically needs chkdsk and you can only run that from Windows repair console. Best to have Windows repair flash drive.

    I once used a Windows 7 repair flash drive to run chkdsk on my XP install. It was a better version of chkdsk as it repaired more things, but it converted my XP PBR to a Windows 7 PBR. In testdisk there also is a compare of PBR (dump) and the PBR had text saying ntldr in the XP backup and bootmgr in the Windows 7 version.

    XP would not know about UEFI. And it may have installed a BIOS boot loader to MBR. But I do not think XP knows about gpt and may have totally corrupted things?

    Of course the horse has left the barn, so it may be a bit late to close the barn door:

    How to: Create a Recovery Drive for reinstalling Windows 10 from Windows 10
    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...2-8bac34abc6c5
    Repair/backup/restore
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/windows-10-recovery-options

    Windows 10 ISO
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO
    Windows 10 repair disk
    http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/3...dows-10-a.html


    UEFI boot install & repair info - Regularly Updated :
    https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
    Please use Thread Tools above first post to change to [Solved] when/if answered completely.

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    Re: DualBoot Win10/Ubuntu-Used XP Recover CD

    AFAIK this can only be done from a working Windows computer to create the bootable DVD/USB media.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/soft...d/windows10ISO

    Also it is free atm.

    I have created a USB that will install Windows 10, 32-bit or 64-bit on one 8GB stick.

    No license number is necessary when installing to a pre-installed computer because the license is stored in the 'nvram' chip.

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