Testing deb apps converted to snap apps on Ubuntu & flavours

[grahammechanical]

snap find now shows Krita in its list of snaps. Krita is a KDE app. Canonical engineers are experimenting snapping various deb apps that can be used as templates to help other people snap other applications and push them into the snap store. I have heard that VLC will soon be in the snap store.

I think that it will be useful to test these snap apps on the family of Ubuntu desktop environments. Here is a screenshot of the Krita snap on Unity 7.

Screenshot from 2016-06-07 19-53-56.jpg

Regards

[ventrical]

Just for fun I am going to try and run it in Libertine on unity8 and see what happens.

Regards..

[ventrical]

Nope! It does not show up in unity8 .. . I filed a bug against libertine. The funny thing is that with yak, the raw beast on the plains of tibet, I am getting x11-apps icon but no Legacy Apps icon in unity8, but on Xenial I get legacy-apps icon but they don't work.

krita did work in standard ubuntu unity.

I am going to try x11-apps and krita on xenial with unity8 ppa.

edit:

x11-apps does not show up in unity8 . krita runs on unity/xenial.No wild yak, no wild squirrel, no banana.

regards..

[grahammechanical]

Xubuntu 16.04 with the Krita snap installed

[ventrical]

What desktop is that running on? Certainly not unity8?

[grahammechanical]

I have given up on Unity 8 for the time being. I am working my way through the flavours to prove that snap apps install on the desktop environments of the flavours. I choose Krita because it is a KDE app that was recently snapped by Michael Hall as a way of finding out how to improve snapcraft. So, far I have Krita installed in Ubuntu Unity 7 & Xubuntu Xfce.

I am doing this on 16.04 because these snaps are supposed to be for 16.04.

I am looking for a snap that I can download and that will re-program my brain so that I know how to use these apps without needing to learn anything. The snaps are installing and running but do I know how to use these applications? If I do not use them, what have I proved?

Being serious for a moment, what I would really like is a Unity 8 snap that can be installed on Ubuntu snappy core. If very minimal versions of the desktop environments were snapped then Ubuntu snappy core would be the foundation of a transactional snappy minimal install. I have heard that it is unrealistic to snap ubuntu-desktop. The package would be very large. I assume that the same could be said about xubuntu-desktop and the others. But what about very minimal versions of these desktop environments with all the utilities also as snaps? That could be a future build it yourself version of Ubuntu and the flavours.

Did I say I was being serious? Dreaming more like it.

Regards.

[ventrical]

Being serious for a moment, what I would really like is a Unity 8 snap that can be installed on Ubuntu snappy core.

Did I say I was being serious? Dreaming more like it.

Regards.

This is where LXD is supposed to come in. Don't you remember the experiments we (I) did? I can install Midnight Commander and Htop and run that from Snappy core command line. Have not tried it since. Maybe I should.

regards..

[mikodo]

Dreaming?

Whoever dreamed before the 80's, one could send letters over the telephone. (faxes).

Ubuntu Community provided LXD with mini-install < GPG signatures > user download hypervisor on their machine > users install snaps specific for use.

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sn...ne/000129.html

[ventrical]

Dreaming?

Whoever dreamed before the 80's, one could send letters over the telephone. (faxes).

Ubuntu Community provided LXD with mini-install < GPG signatures > user download hypervisor on their machine > users install snaps specific for use.

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sn...ne/000129.html

I was just thinking the same thing.

[mikodo]

Ubuntu Community provided LXD with mini-install < GPG signatures > user download hypervisor on their machine > users install snaps specific for use.https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sn...ne/000129.html

Please excuse me Graham, for hi-jacking your thread. I cannot get this off my mind today. It could be the future of Community Ubuntu and its' flavours.

Let me use Xubuntu as an example to, separate it from being confused with Ubuntu Snappy Core. But, one could use the Ubuntu OS as the example too.

1) Xubuntu devops put together the next rendition of Xubuntu in a LXD container. Test it untill they believe it to be stable to push to the masses of users.

2) Make this new hypervisor available to be pulled/pushed to users. (I don't know what exists for this except that, I know virtualization is used for this sort of thing across many machines today). Make it secure with GPG Handshakes. So, users would feel safe to use it just as they do with Repository installs to bare-metal as we have now.

3) Have an ever growing community driven collection of Snap Packages within the Ubuntu Snappy Core Repository to, replace debs.

4) Users would install Snaps as they were available and install debs using dpkg when they were not.

5) The testing of newer iterations of Snap and Deb libraries would be done in the LXD environment to, have newer stable Snaps available for being pulled/pushed to the users that is isolated from Xubuntu so as, to not break the current OS install for users.

6) Eventually we reach, "Transactional, image-based delta updates for the systems and applications that can always be rolled back".

Then, we would have "the way of the future" now, going at "warp speed 9".

Now, someone play, California Dreamin'


http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/snappy