Ubuntu on Windows 10

[ventrical]

Mark Shuttleworth quote

"full Ubuntu environment on Windows"

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/...t-needs-linux/

[light_yagami2]

I don't really see why Conical is helping Microsoft when Microsoft doesn't even support linux in terms of software avalibility. I hope Micro$oft didn't buy Conical. Otherwise I'd install another distro

[grahammechanical]

Someone once criticized Canonical for putting fewer patches into the Linux kernel than Microsoft had done. Are you now going to stop using Linux?

Among other notable changes, Microsoft fell off the list after briefly being one of Linux's most prolific contributors. Microsoft's 688 changes accounted for one percent of the total in the 2012 list.

Microsoft, in 2009, submitted drivers for its Hyper-V virtualization platform to the Linux kernel. The project hit a bunch of delays, with Microsoft struggling to get its drivers out of the staging area and into the mainline kernel. In 2011, Microsoft became the fifth largest corporate contributor to Linux kernel version 3.0 as it attempted to clean up its code. Redmond's contributions have predictably dropped off now that the code is more stable.

http://arstechnica.com/information-t...-contributors/

Ubuntu is about showing humanity to one another: the word itself captures the spirit of being human.

We invite anybody, from any company, to participate in any aspect of the project. Our community is open, and any responsibility can be carried by any contributor who demonstrates the required capacity and competence.

http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct

It is our mission to make open source software available to people everywhere.

We partner with the biggest names in hardware, software and on the cloud to help them optimise, extend and deliver Ubuntu at scale.

http://www.canonical.com/

And that includes running Ubuntu on Microsoft's Azure Cloud offering.

A Q&A with Dustin Kirkland who was the Canonical engineer who worked with Microsoft's engineers on this project.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdLobNoCbxw

You have only just joined us and already you are promising to leave.

[buzzingrobot]

Ars Technica has an interesting piece today: "Why Microsoft Needed To Make Windows Run Linux Software". (http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/04/why-microsoft-needed-to-make-windows-run-linux-software/)

It reinforces the notion that this is all about keeping developers inside the Windows universe by making available the ability to use the non-Windows tools they've been using.

Also contains the assertion that Microsoft is having to spend time teaching new hires how to develop the Windows way. I.e., they aren't doing development on Windows in school or in their previouos jobs.

"Linux software" is reminder that there's no kernel in this mix. Anything that depends on the kernel won't be available.

[montag dp]

It reinforces the notion that this is all about keeping developers inside the Windows universe by making available the ability to use the non-Windows tools they've been using.

Which begs the question, why would Canonical want to help them do that?

I guess the answer is, because Canonical cares about Ubuntu, not Linux. At least, that's the conclusion I'm drawing from it.

[ian-weisser]

While it's fun to read malevolent motives into a group that you're not part of, do please remember the Code of Conduct.

Every member of Canonical that I have met has been deeply committed to Linux, and to the mission of Free and Open Source Software. Many of their whole lives are built around it.

The Ubuntu community is not so terribly big, and meanspirited words spoken publicly in haste you may someday regret.

[montag dp]

Not mean spirited at all. I'm just trying to understand this move on Canonical's part, and I'd love to hear a different take. It's been stated that MS's motive in all this is to keep developers with Windows instead of moving to Linux. So the question remains, why would Canonical want to assist with that endeavor? To me, the logical conclusion is that Canonical wants developers to use Ubuntu, even if it keeps them from using Linux.

I suppose another motive could be to introduce them to Linux in the hopes that they will switch. But then that conflicts with MS's motive, so it becomes a gamble as to which way it would turn out.

Also, I certainly wasn't commenting on the motives of individual developers, but rather the organization as a whole.

One more thing, I think my previous comment came across more harshly than intended. Of course Canonical cares about Linux. Maybe I should have just said that they care primarily about Ubuntu, and then about Linux.

[grahammechanical]

This is a Ubuntu users forum. What do we know about the motivations of the management at Canonical? Only what we learn from public statements made in blog posts & interviews.

Mark Shuttleworth was once voted the Most Disruptive Name in Computing by Forbes magazine. And that award would have pleased him. He wants Ubuntu to be disruptive. He believes it will stimulate others to innovate with Ubuntu. And why not "with Ubuntu?" Why is it wrong for the Company that sponsors Ubuntu to promote Ubuntu?

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/m...computing-2013

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-08/13/mark-shuttleworth-canonical-ubuntu

http://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/04/0...is-everywhere/

A Canonical community manager once said: "When it comes to the desktop there is an elephant in the room. When it comes to mobile phones there are two elephants in the room." What do you do in situations like that? You do something different.

Regards.

[izznogooood]

Here's another view:

Apple has become what Microsoft once was. Your environment is locked, its not yours to control.
Microsoft is altering course. With this they open their "environment" (ever so slightly)

I for one am exited to see where this leads, the possibilities are endless.

(As for why "open source ONLY" will never work in a society that runs on money. Well, that's another discussion all together )

[Wadim_Korneev]

Very impressive technology. I tried to set up an Android build environment under it but I was hampered by this open Ubuntu bug from 2014.