Systemd discussion - during the V cycle

[zika]

Thanks zika but rrnbtter's method was much easier.

suum cuique

No it really is gedit. I just open it up without sudo and it will not display the line numbers even if it's set to do so. Also the mouse is invisible when hovering over the text. It's kind of hard to manage or even use.
This is has just been since I installed the alpha1 iso.

Gedit with sudo? Again?

[Cavsfan]

Thanks zika but rrnbtter's method was much easier.

suum cuique

quicquid

Actually I was trying to use pkexec but it's just as bad or worse than sudo.

cavsfan@cavsfan-MS-7529:~$ pkx gedit /etc/fstab

(gedit:12152): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkSettings:gtk-menu-images is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version.

(gedit:12152): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkToolButton:stock-id is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version.

(gedit:12152): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkWidget:margin-right is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version.

(gedit:12152): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

(gedit:12152): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

However using leafpad did not give any errors at all (this time):

cavsfan@cavsfan-MS-7529:~$ pkx leafpad /etc/fstab
cavsfan@cavsfan-MS-7529:~$

But, at this time many things are finicky and change constantly on 15.04. At least for me they are.

[rrnbtter]

Greetings,
@cavsfan; I still wouldn't put it on Gedit. Mine is working fine but I have been getting graphics rendering problems all over the map. I even had a Drop Menu problem in Firefox for a few days. I am still getting it at various times on different programs even running the 3.19RC1 kernel. I think this will get fixed in a few days. Mean time good to hear you have Leafpad working. Regarding the sudo thing, many of us are using sudo -H in place of gksudo.

[Cavsfan]

Greetings,
@cavsfan; I still wouldn't put it on Gedit. Mine is working fine but I have been getting graphics rendering problems all over the map. I even had a Drop Menu problem in Firefox for a few days. I am still getting it at various times on different programs even running the 3.19RC1 kernel. I think this will get fixed in a few days. Mean time good to hear you have Leafpad working. Regarding the sudo thing, many of us are using sudo -H in place of gksudo.

My gedit got 100% worse when I installed the alpha Vivid ISO on the 18th. It's hardly manageable. I know that gksu is going away but they should find a suitable replacement before hand.
Pkexec does not (to me that is) look like it will be the replacement. I know it is still really early in the cycle and everything is very volatile at the moment it seems.
Leafpad seems to be fairing the best. Here's what I just got with sudo -H: (no better than gksu or pkexec)

avsfan@cavsfan-MS-7529:~$ sudo -H gedit /etc/fstab
[sudo] password for cavsfan: 

(gedit:5345): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkSettings:gtk-menu-images is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version.

(gedit:5345): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkToolButton:stock-id is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version.

(gedit:5345): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkWidget:margin-right is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version.

(gedit:5345): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

(gedit:5345): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

Like you say I guess we'll just have to be patient and wait...

[mc4man]

My gedit got 100% worse when I installed the alpha Vivid ISO on the 18th. It's hardly manageable. I know that gksu is going away but they should find a suitable replacement before hand.
Pkexec does not (to me that is) look like it will be the replacement. I know it is still really early in the cycle and everything is very volatile at the moment it seems.
Leafpad seems to be fairing the best. Here's what I just got with sudo -H: (no better than gksu or pkexec)

avsfan@cavsfan-MS-7529:~$ sudo -H gedit /etc/fstab
[sudo] password for cavsfan: 

(gedit:5345): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkSettings:gtk-menu-images is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version.

(gedit:5345): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkToolButton:stock-id is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version.

(gedit:5345): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkWidget:margin-right is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version.

(gedit:5345): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

(gedit:5345): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

Like you say I guess we'll just have to be patient and wait...

The glib warning should go when a newer gedit is supplied, as far as the gtk warnings from a root gedit they have been & continue to be of no concern. Probably could be removed but Gnome dev's don't support root gui's so likely they won't. In that regard they then become meaningless.

[muktupavels]

@cavsfan: just forget about these warnings... how many time you have posted these here?

First three warnings are just "spam". GTK+ has deprecated many properties, these are only few. It will be removed only in GTK+ 4.x until then it is only warning.

You should not worry about last two warnings. Don't know why, but running with sudo gedit fails to find org.gnome.SessionManager service. That means if you edit file and will try logout then gedit will not able to inform SessionManager that you have unsaved work. But at least logout in indicator-applet (if using flashback session and probably in unity) does not care if you have some unsaved work and will logout you anyway if you confirm action. (If you use logout button on panel or user menu applet then then logout dialog will inform you about unsaved document in gedit if not run with sudo). Otherwise gedit should work just fine.

Yes, gedit has problems now, but it might be because it is not updated to 3.14.x, it is still on 3.10.4 version...

[mc4man]

line numbers are returned in gedit 3.14 (w/ newer libgtksourceview..)
also those gtk warnings are gone in root or non root gedit but some new ones may appear, if use isn't affected then nothing to be concerned about
(- appears gedit will need some work to look right in an ubuntu session

[Cavsfan]

My gedit got 100% worse when I installed the alpha Vivid ISO on the 18th. It's hardly manageable. I know that gksu is going away but they should find a suitable replacement before hand.
Pkexec does not (to me that is) look like it will be the replacement. I know it is still really early in the cycle and everything is very volatile at the moment it seems.
Leafpad seems to be fairing the best. Here's what I just got with sudo -H: (no better than gksu or pkexec)

avsfan@cavsfan-MS-7529:~$ sudo -H gedit /etc/fstab
[sudo] password for cavsfan: 

(gedit:5345): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkSettings:gtk-menu-images is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version.

(gedit:5345): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkToolButton:stock-id is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version.

(gedit:5345): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: The property GtkWidget:margin-right is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version.

(gedit:5345): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

(gedit:5345): Gtk-WARNING **: Calling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files

Like you say I guess we'll just have to be patient and wait...

The glib warning should go when a newer gedit is supplied, as far as the gtk warnings from a root gedit they have been & continue to be of no concern. Probably could be removed but Gnome dev's don't support root gui's so likely they won't. In that regard they then become meaningless.

Thanks for that information! I won't worry about it. Gedit is bad for me right now. I'll wait on the next gedit to come down the pipes.

@cavsfan: just forget about these warnings... how many time you have posted these here?
First three warnings are just "spam". GTK+ has deprecated many properties, these are only few. It will be removed only in GTK+ 4.x until then it is only warning.

You should not worry about last two warnings. Don't know why, but running with sudo gedit fails to find org.gnome.SessionManager service. That means if you edit file and will try logout then gedit will not able to inform SessionManager that you have unsaved work. But at least logout in indicator-applet (if using flashback session and probably in unity) does not care if you have some unsaved work and will logout you anyway if you confirm action. (If you use logout button on panel or user menu applet then then logout dialog will inform you about unsaved document in gedit if not run with sudo). Otherwise gedit should work just fine.

Yes, gedit has problems now, but it might be because it is not updated to 3.14.x, it is still on 3.10.4 version...

Excuse me? I can see they are warnings and I was not worried about them breaking my system.
I really am not even close to being the first or only one that posts gksudo gedit error messages by any stretch of your imagination.
Plus seeing "is deprecated and shouldn't be used anymore. It will be removed in a future version." is a tad disconcerting.
I'm not sure I've seen that exact message before.

line numbers are returned in gedit 3.14 (w/ newer libgtksourceview..)
also those gtk warnings are gone in root or non root gedit but some new ones may appear, if use isn't affected then nothing to be concerned about
(- appears gedit will need some work to look right in an ubuntu session

Thanks! I'll just stop worrying about those warnings and let it go.

Sorry, I guess you can blame me for straying off of the thread topic of systemd.

[Cavsfan]

So... how is running only systemd working for everyone?
The only changes I've noticed is at boot time I no longer see those messages with the green button (or whatever) beside them like when network manager was started up, etc.

[harry332]

So... how is running only systemd working for everyone?
The only changes I've noticed is at boot time I no longer see those messages with the green button (or whatever) beside them like when network manager was started up, etc.

Systemd only is running fine here (with Gnome-shell DE and GDM).
But I would like to know how many of you actually have a Systemd-only setup.
Meaning - you have purged at least these:
- systemd-shim
- cgmanager + libcgmanager0
- upstart
And you have systemd-sysv installed.