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    Re: 10.04 kernel update 2.6.32-61 bricks computer

    I found this Attention posted on unixnews.net:

    ATTENTION: Due to an unavoidable ABI change the kernel updates have
    been given a new version number, which requires you to recompile and
    reinstall all third party kernel modules you might have installed. If
    you use linux-restricted-modules, you have to update that package as
    well to get modules which work with the new kernel version. Unless you
    manually uninstalled the standard kernel metapackages (e.g. linux-generic,
    linux-server, linux-powerpc), a standard system upgrade will automatically
    perform this as well.

    This may well be our problem.

    Here is the link to the post:

    http://www.unixnews.net/2014/06/usn-...abilities.html

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    Re: 10.04 kernel update 2.6.32-61 bricks computer

    I have run into some of the same issues since updating this morning. I'm running 10.04 in a VirtualBox VM. I thought my VM might be toast after installing the update so created a new VM and installed 10.04 fresh from an existing iso I had saved. The install appears to automatically go get 2.6.32-61 from the servers. The only drivers that get added come from the VirtualBox Guest Additions which get built when installed. I'm still seeing the same behavior on both VMs where I can do one or two things before Gnome/X locks up. Interestingly though, in some cases if I have an xterm open and in focus, I can continue using non-X related processes from the terminal.

    Hopefully there is a prompt resolution to this as my dev tools tend to choke on 12.04 and higher.

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    Re: 10.04 kernel update 2.6.32-61 bricks computer

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Unitt View Post
    tobiz: Much the same - curiously, it allowed me to run the System Monitor until I tried to switch to the File Systems tab, at which point it hung.

    mörgæs : I thought it was still supported for security issues (i.e. this fix) ?
    No, not on the desktop.
    Servers are still supported, but desktop packages are no longer supported.

    If a kernel breaks something on the desktop, then that's that.
    The fix would be completely up to you.
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    removing updates

    Can someone tell me if there is a way to remove updates. I did an update this morning and since then any program used locks up. How can cI revert to before the last update

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    Re: 10.04 kernel update 2.6.32-61 bricks computer

    Quote Originally Posted by tobiz View Post
    if it ain't broke don't fix it
    A system without security bug fixes is definitely broken.


    Quote Originally Posted by tobiz View Post
    my experience of upgrading is it takes far far too long to sort out the issues it generates
    I think you should put that to a test.

    If you have some space you could create a new partition and do a fresh install of 14.04. Measure the time spent (my guess is 20-30 minutes). Then measure the time to rescue the present 10.04 install.
    Bringing old hardware back to life. About problems due to upgrading.
    Please visit Quick Links -> Unanswered Posts.
    Don't use this space for a list of your hardware. It only creates false hits in the search engines.

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    Re: 10.04 kernel update 2.6.32-61 bricks computer

    Yes the most useful info at the moment would be as you say how to edit/change grub to boot into 2.6.32-60, could some one please publish details.

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    Re: 10.04 kernel update 2.6.32-61 bricks computer

    Quote Originally Posted by tobiz View Post
    Yes the most useful info at the moment would be as you say how to edit/change grub to boot into 2.6.32-60, could some one please publish details.
    I have no idea which version of grub you have.
    But typically, you can change it at boot by pressing the shift key when the bios screen closes, and then release the shift key right when it syas grub-something.
    This will show the grub screen.

    To make a selection default.
    Run
    Code:
    gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
    or in a terminal
    Code:
    sudo nano /etc/default/grub
    Change the line
    Code:
    GRUB_DEFAULT=0
    to the number you want, as a guess I would say it's probably 2, if you have recovery modes listed.

    Then save exit, and run
    Code:
    sudo update-grub
    again, I don't know what version is installed on 10.04.
    So the above suggestion might need to be different.
    Perhaps
    Code:
    dpkg -l grub* | grep ii
    will help figure that out.
    Last edited by deadflowr; June 6th, 2014 at 08:00 PM. Reason: know means no, lol
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    Re: 10.04 kernel update 2.6.32-61 bricks computer

    I used the graphical app at http://askubuntu.com/questions/10023...rub-boot-order to go back to 2.6.32-60, rebooted and it now seems ok (it is running 2.6.32-60, I checked), well the things I mentioned before that didn't work on 2.6.32-61 now seem ok. So how long did this take me Morgaes? Let me see, oh about 5mins. How long would it take to create a new partition (which on my machine wouldn't be simple), install 14.04 and re-install the many many apps I've installed on my trusty 10.04? At a rough estimate, several days! So 5mins vs several days: guess I win!! I hear your point about a system being broke if it doesn't have all the security fixes, but as with many things in life you have to make value judgements and at the moment a working system without all the security fixes is better than the several days (my estimate) to get to a secure 14.04 (and I haven't included the time to back up all my data filesbe fore upgrading). When I do upgrade I'll build a new system and start over again, in my own time with my trusty 10.04 system humming away in the background waiting to be obsoleted!

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    Re: 10.04 kernel update 2.6.32-61 bricks computer

    Quote Originally Posted by deadflowr View Post
    I have no idea which version of grub you have.
    But typically, you can change it at boot by pressing the shift key when the bios screen closes, and then release the shift key right when it syas grub-something.
    This will show the grub screen.

    To make a selection default.
    Run
    Code:
    gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
    or in a terminal
    Code:
    sudo nano /etc/default/grub
    Change the line
    Code:
    GRUB_DEFAULT=0
    to the number you want, as a guess I would say it's probably 2, if you have recovery modes listed.

    Then save exit, and run
    Code:
    sudo update-grub
    again, I don't know what version is installed on 10.04.
    So the above suggestion might need to be different.
    Perhaps
    Code:
    dpkg -l grub* | grep ii
    will help figure that out.
    Thanks for this, much appreciated. However, see my slightly earlier post as to how I did it. BTW it turns out the index should be 3 (counting from 1 using the gui, or I guess 2 going 'native'). I should thank Daniel Richter for Grub Customizer, just what I needed, brilliant!

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    Linux header updates last night screwed up my 10.04 system

    Last night, my update manager prompted me to install a bunch of Linux security updates. I installed them and then shut down my computer for the evening. This morning, my system is a mess. Thunderbird, Chromium, and lots of other apps either won't start up or just freeze after they do start up. Various Google apps such as maps or gmail or calendar seem especially non-functional.

    I hope that some kind of patch is in the works. Is there any way for me to roll back this kernel update?

    Of course, I should update to Ubuntu 14.04 and had planned to do that in August. In the meanwhile, is there anything I can do?

    I'm running a System76 Wild Dog with 8GB of RAM. I have Nvidia graphics.

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