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    New & Old HDDs (x4) OS and file split assistance request

    Hello all

    I am upgrading and adding to my current HDD arrangement. Currently I have two HDDs, SATA, one with Windows on and one with Ubuntu on (to keep things simple).

    I wish to load Ubuntu onto a SSD HDD and then run two SATAs for everything else on my Ubuntu OS; one being the SATA I already have with Ubuntu on it and the other an additional SATA drive I will purchase.

    I would like to use the two discs in tandom, but I'm not sure what RAID set up I would need (I hear it's RAID0 but unconfirmed).

    The Windows SATA disk would remain untouched. Totalling to x1 SSD with Ubuntu OS on it, x2 SATAs working together for Ubuntu games, music, etc... and x1 SATA for Windows.

    I have some questions:

    1) Is this difficult to set up? Seems relatively easy reading up on it online.

    2) Can I just move my files from my existing Ubuntu SATA HDD, or would I have to do a fresh install?

    3) My SATA discs can take 6GB (SATA 3) transfer rates it seems. Is it worth getting SATA 3 cabling, as the drives can't write the information that fast anyway...? (Currently I have SATA 2 cabling, 3GB rate)

    4) Is it worth having a different file system to EXT for my OS and then EXT for the other discs?

    5) Always end a list on odd numbers

    Thanks in advance all
    Last edited by Drowz0r; May 11th, 2014 at 11:59 AM.
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    Re: New & Old HDDs (x4) OS and file split assistance request

    I am not a fan of RAID on desktops. For servers with many drives and daily backups to tape then it does make sense.

    Do not use gparted on RAID.
    http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-res...-software-raid
    Don't bother with RAID 0 unless you have a specific need for speed without data redundancy, since if one drive goes out, you lose the whole array.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID
    http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/nas/n...-is-not-backup

    I suggest a full new install to SSD. You need different configuration anyway.

    I would stay with ext4.
    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...15_hddfs&num=1

    And if not using Windows on a drive to boot, then use gpt partitioning. Windows only boots from gpt with UEFI, but will read data from NTFS partitions on a gpt drive when booted in BIOS with MBR on another drive.
    Ubuntu will boot from gpt with UEFI or BIOS. But if you have the 35-40 year old MBR(msdos) partitioning you can only boot with BIOS.

    GPT Advantages (older but still valid) see post#2 by srs5694:
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1457901
    https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php...antages_of_GPT
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    Re: New & Old HDDs (x4) OS and file split assistance request

    Awesome.

    SDD for OS and x2 SATA for files then.

    EXT4 it is, makes things easier anyway.

    Is it difficult to install files when using multiple partitions? For instance if I'm installing something from the terminal, do I get prompted for which partition to install it to or would I have to specify from now on? I'm trying to reserve my SDD for OS stuff and maybe one or two other things, like the browser etc... things used the most. I'd like games, documents and all that other junk on the SATA HDDs.

    Thanks for the help
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    Re: New & Old HDDs (x4) OS and file split assistance request

    Programs from repository are always installed in / (root). I think some games can be elsewhere.
    If you put /home on the hard drive all data automatically goes into /home.

    But a bit more advanced is separate data partition. But then you have to set ownership, permissions and mount it to make it easy to use.

    I have lots of programs, but no games and use 11GB of my 28GB / partition. That does include my /home, but the only thing in /home is wine for Picasa and the hidden user settings. And larger hidden folders with data like Firefox & Thunderbird profiles are also moved to my data partition. My /home inside my / is about 2GB and most of that is the wine folder.
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    Re: New & Old HDDs (x4) OS and file split assistance request

    Alright, so I've installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS onto the SSD drive. The other two drives weren't formatted with the installation though (not sure why) and are mounted. One is my old Ubuntu disc, and I can see all my old files on it and stuff.

    How do I format these other two HDDs and make them a seemless part of my OS? Atm they just seem to be disks I can drop files in and out of.

    I have something like 300GB of games, so I need to be able to install games and have them "spill over" into other HDDs or specify which HDDs to install them into. I can't just drag and drop them like a video file.

    This is why I think I need something like RAID but I could be wrong.
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    Re: New & Old HDDs (x4) OS and file split assistance request

    Specific examples here for both NTFS and ext4.
    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1983336
    Mount & edit fstab from user Morbius1 in Post # 6 - suggest using templates instead.

    You do need to partition drives and format the partition(s).

    If you add to fstab then they will always be mounted under the mount point or name you give partition. Better than just d: or e: that Windows uses. I also label partitions with gparted when I create them or disks or Disk utility if I forget or change partition. Then for those partitions I do not mount automatically I have a name I recognize. But I have labeled a partition Data and mounted it data in fstab and gotten confused.

    Understanding fstab
    http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountlinux
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
    https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fstab

    If Linux formatted you have to set ownership & permissions for each mount point.

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
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    Re: New & Old HDDs (x4) OS and file split assistance request

    It's not actually allowing me to format the drive even when I put in the fresh DVD to format everything. I've connected the three discs. SSD x1 and HDD (regular SATA) x2 and it will not let me delete the partitions and only installs Ubuntu to the first disk.

    I continued as normal thinking maybe gpartition could do it or something but it also will not let me format the old HDD and use it for space.

    So I carried on setting up Ubuntu and for some unknown reason it decided to no longer allow me to boot into my desktop properly. I get a cursor and nothing else. Recovery mode didn't fix it so I decided to just do a format again.

    Now after suppisidly wiping the disk it tells me there is already a grub boot loader present. I don't get how as the disk is meant to be blank... So co ringing without one (It is detecting the OS on the HDD I can't wipe as an alternative OS so it wants grub).

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    Re: New & Old HDDs (x4) OS and file split assistance request

    Okay, unplugged all except the SDD and still couldn't boot.

    Formatted the drive again and not loaded in any other drives. All is working.

    I've plugged in one of the regular SATA HDDs.

    Drive opens fine. I have the option to "Unmount" it, so I suspect it's mounted already? It just opens like any other media.
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    Re: New & Old HDDs (x4) OS and file split assistance request

    I did this to check:

    Code:
    drowz0r@Prime:/dev$ ls s*
    sda   sda2  sdb   sg0  sg2  snapshot  sr1     stdin
    sda1  sda5  sdb1  sg1  sg3  sr0       stderr  stdout
    SDA is my SSD HDD, SDB is the 2nd disk, the regular HDD (500GB).

    So it seems to mount by itself, simply by being plugged in?
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    Re: New & Old HDDs (x4) OS and file split assistance request

    Right looking into it, it seems I had to unmount the disks, format them, partition them.

    Seems to be working fine now. Not sure if they should be primary or extended partitions. I think primary...
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