I am new to forum and if I had read the posts here about the problems people have here with the os in my case ubuntu 12.04 I doubt I would have installed it. I like many others are having shutdown problems and I look at all the try this and that posts to fix the problem and they dont work. I have tried some and cant get it right. It is probably more of a problem for people like myself who are not real computer savvy. Going into the terminal type this command and that try this and that, what is going on? There is a sticky about command lines on who is to stop someone from screwing up your computer by typing in different commands? I only hope the new version 14.04 coming out soon will fix some of these problems. Its my fault I dont know more maybe. I have 2 systems running windows xp on computers that are about 6 years old and thought I could extend the life by trying linux. That is not going to work if I have to keep doing a hard shutdown all the time. I have a compaq v2000 laptop is it the driver? the graphic card? is this turned off is that turned on? Yeah xp was less secure and you gotta install updates all the time but everything worked. What to do. Just venting sorry.