Dual boot HP 2000-2d49WM Ubuntu & Windows 8

[EpicMinerBackup]

OK so I want to dual boot with my new laptop I got yesterday it has windows 8.
I used my USB to try to install Ubuntu 13.10 but it does not show that win 8 is installed and does not give a option to dual boot install
and I don't know how to do it manually please help me out.

[oldfred]

Did you turn off fastboot or the always on hibernation? Often better to turn off secure boot also.

Backup efi partition and Windows partition before Install of Ubuntu.
Shows install with screen shots for both BIOS & UEFI, so you know which you are using.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
Also shows Windows 8 screens
http://askubuntu.com/questions/22183...ndows-8-system
Boot Repair -Also handles LVM, GPT, separate /boot and UEFI dual boot. required for UEFI & grub bug fixes
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair

[EpicMinerBackup]

How would I back them up

[oldfred]

These are often suggested for Windows.
The vendor recovery DVDs are just an image of your drive as purchased. If you have housecleaned a lot of cruft normally included, run many updates with many reboots, and added software you may want a full back up.
Backup windows before install - post by Mark Phelps
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...0#post12611710
http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.asp
Another suggestion by srs5694
http://www.runtime.org/driveimage-xml.htm


Windows 8 UEFI repair USB must be FAT32, not for reinstall, just repairs
http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html
http://www.winhelp.us/create-a-recov...ows-8.html#USB
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/For...-166dddf32205/
http://www.ghacks.net/2012/11/01/how...m-repair-disc/



Often for Ubuntu clonezilla is used for image backups. But with Ubuntu it is easy to reinstall so many of us just backup /home, /etc, list of installed apps, and any thing else we create but not the system.

[EpicMinerBackup]

I'm sorry if this is annoying but I'm very new and a little bit stupid when it comes to this is there at all any videos or simple instructions that I could follow?
Sorry again.

[oldfred]

There are several videos, now a bit older but the same processes for installing in the link in my signature. Videos are at the bottom of the first post.

[bilkay]

I'm going through much of the same with an HP 2000 I bought for my wife. I tried to install from a 12.04.3 DVD but all I got was a black screen for both install and demo. I also tried with a 12.04.1 DVD and got the same result. I went to HP tech support and got on chat with a technician. He told me:
1. disable secure boot.
2. enable legacy support.
3. my software warranty will be voided.

I did 1 and 2, but I still only got a black screen from the .3 disk (install and demo). I then tried with the .1 disk and demo came up fine (didn't try install yet). I'm thinking that the difference may be because the .1 disk is the 32 bit version and the .3 disk is 64 bit.

Reading other posts, I see recommendations that the re-partitioning should be done by windows. I'm not sure how to do that. Windows shows that the disk already has 5 partitions. What's odd about that is there are 2 D: partitions which are identical except the type for one is blank and the other is NTFS. I see an option to shrink the partitions, but I'm unsure how to proceed from there in windows. A concern I have is that if I shrink the C: partition and then add another partition in the empty space, it will have to be an extended partition. I'm not sure if that will be a problem.

[bilkay]

Progress report:

I tried booting from a usb stick (12.04.3 64 bit and 32 bit versions), still getting nothing but black screen. Went back to old 12.04.1 (32 bit) cdrom and got the try/install screen. Presently running "try" (seems to work OK). Next, ran fdisk /dev/sda which only returned one device (/dev/sda1) system: GPT. The man page for fdisk says "fdisk does not understand GUID partition tables (GPTs) and it is not designed for large partitions. In these cases, use the more advanced GNU parted(8)."

Next, ran gparted /dev/sda. It shows 5 partitions (/dev/sda1 ... /dev/sda5).

Partition-------- File System----- Label---------- Size------------ Used---------- Unused------- Flags
/dev/sda1------ ntfs--------------- WINRE-------- 400.00 MiB--- 259.06 MiB--- 140.94 Mib-- hidden, diag
/dev/sda2------ fat32------------- ------------------ 260.00 MiB--- 98.67 Mib---- 161.33 Mib-- boot
/dev/sda3-!---- unknown-------- ------------------ 128.00 MiB--- ----------------- ---------------- msftres
/dev/sda4------ ntfs--------------- Windows------ 675.84 GiB--- 36.18 GiB----- 639.66 GiB-- ------------
/dev/sda5------ ntfs--------------- RECOVERY-- 22.03 GiB----- 19.79 GiB----- 2.24 GiB----- hidden

I'm really concerned about what might happen if I try running "Install". All of this wouldn't be a problem with a wubi install, but we're warned against using it in Windows 8. Is this a permanent thing or is there a fix in the works? Anyone know?

[oldfred]

New computers with Windows 8 have UEFI and gpt partitioning. There is no limit on partitions with gpt (well it really is 128 as a default). And all partitions then are primary.

fdisk is only for MBR(msdos). I think they are working on a new version that also supports gpt, but there already is gdisk which is a fdisk for gpt partitioned drives. gdisk is in the repository and easy to install.

You do need to use Windows to shrink its partition to make unallocated space. And reboot so it runs chkdsk to fix itself to its new size. And you need to make full backups of Windows and the efi partition.

Please review all the collected links and info in the link in my signature. It is a lot but can answer all your questions.

All the new computers really need 13.10 as Intel has offered a lot of updates for its new processors to the kernel & support software. That is in 13.10 and 12.04.4 in Jan will probably even have more updates. UEFI secure boot support only started with 12.04.2 so you should not use any earlier versions.

[bilkay]

I made and ran a 13.10 64 bit install usb and I'm still getting the black screen (after the GRUB try/install menu). Tried with and without secure boot - no luck. Can't find any other settings that might be the problem.

Any reason my subscription to this thread was removed?