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    Installing Ubuntu 12.04 on Asus X201E with preinstalled Windows 8

    Hello.

    I have just bought a brand new Asus X201E and I want to install Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS on it.

    First I must say that I had a problem with botting a LiveUSB: there was nothing but a black screen instead Ubuntu loading screen. Finally i managed to run a session, when I disabled a Secure Boot and CMS(or something like that) in BIOS - then there was a "black screen" again, but it was enough to hit ENTER and the system loaded fine.

    I manually partitioned disk in this order:

    Code:
    /
    /home
    swap
    but at the end of installation, such a information apeared:
    Code:
    grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot.
    I read a lot about this: one sorces say that I should make a EFI(?) partition, the other - like here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UE..._EFI_partition

    If your disk already contains an EFI partition (eg if your computer had Windows8 preinstalled), it can be used for Ubuntu too. Do not format it. It is strongly recommended to have only 1 EFI partition per disk.
    say - as far as I understand - that there is no need of creating such one.

    I tough that this is a problem with a GRUB, that GRUB has no place to install. In fact, when I am commiting an installation process, on partitioning step there is a drop-down list, that says where to put a "bootloader program". On this drop lists there are a partitions that I made myself and a Windows partitions. As I did not know with one to choose, i followed this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1626263 - and left the "bootloader program" on: sda(without number)...

    Can someone tell me and put in in a simple words - how should I install Ubuntu?

    My only problem is this mentioned above, that at the end of installation an error apears, saying:

    Code:
    grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into  /target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not  boot.
    What am I doing bad, that the system can not be installed?

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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 12.04 on Asus X201E with preinstalled Windows 8

    Lets see details.
    Post the link to the BootInfo report that this creates. Is part of Boot-Repair:
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Info
    Boot Repair -Also handles LVM, GPT, separate /boot and UEFI dual boot.:
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
    You can repair many boot issues with this or 'Create BootInfo' report (Other Options) & post the link it creates, so we can see your exact configuration and diagnose advanced problems.

    Did you turn off fast boot in Windows?
    Do you have secure boot on or off?

    Review links in the link in my signature especially the first three.
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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 12.04 on Asus X201E with preinstalled Windows 8

    Yes. When I was installing I first turned off: fast boot in Windows Control Panel\Energy, fast boot and launch CSM both disabled in my BIOS.
    Secure Boot Control in BIOS was disabled, Secure Boot state was shown in BIOS as disabled.

    This is the link, that Boot-Repair has generated:

    http://paste.ubuntu.com/6511347/

    When I started Boot-Repair, it told, that "EFI partition was found. Here is a screen of my partitions:

    Last edited by miniKOX; December 2nd, 2013 at 10:41 PM.

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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 12.04 on Asus X201E with preinstalled Windows 8

    Your Linux partitions now are missing? Swap became sda10 but now there is no sda7, 8 & 9??

    You can partition in advance from gparted and then from Installer use the Something Else or manual install and choose / (root) for your root partition and ext4, /home as ext4. If swap exists it will auto find that. Grub will auto install to sda's efi partition if you are installing from an UEFI boot and select sda. If you happen to boot in BIOS mode then you also have to have a bios_grub partition and grub installs to the protective MBR that gpt drives have. Drives with gpt partitioning still have an MBR, with one partition entry for gpt so old tools like fdisk do not offer to reformat without at least showing the one gpt partition table entry.

    If grub does not correctly install Boot-Repair should be able to fix it.
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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 12.04 on Asus X201E with preinstalled Windows 8

    No. I deleted them, for I tough that there is something wrong with them and I wanted to create a "eufi/boot"(or something like that) partition, thinking that it help - as I read about it on forum, but I don't remember the topic, when I find it, I will post it to prove .

    Grub will auto install to sda's efi partition if you are installing from an UEFI boot and select sda
    - so I do not need to make a new partition with "EFI...something"?

    If you happen to boot in BIOS mode then you also have to have a bios_grub partition and grub installs to the protective MBR that gpt drives have.
    - sorry, it may sound silly, but what do you mean by "boot in BIOS mode"? I always choose in BIOS, to boot from USB when I am installing Ubuntu. So I must additionaly make a partition with is "bios-grub", and from drop-down list saying: where to install a bootloader also choose "sda" - do I understood you good?
    Last edited by miniKOX; December 2nd, 2013 at 11:46 PM.

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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 12.04 on Asus X201E with preinstalled Windows 8

    With UEFI there now are two ways to boot - UEFI or BIOS(CSM).
    UEFI Compatibility Support Module (CSM), which emulates a BIOS mode

    And how you boot is how it installs. You now have switches in UEFI to turn on secure boot, UEFI, boot or CSM/BIOS/Legacy boot. Some UEFI clearly have switches for each. Others just have UEFI with secure boot on or off and when boot will try to boot from an efi partition and if no boot files found will boot from MBR in BIOS mode.
    UEFI and BIOS are not compatible, so once you start booting in one mode you cannot change. You have to go back into UEFI menu to boot another system in different boot mode.

    With BIOS, there is only one MBR, so only one install controls boot as BIOS jumps to MBR to boot.
    With UEFI you have an efi partition with as many folders for each operating systems as you may want. From UEFI meny you can boot any of them, but from grub you can chain back to efi partition to boot Windows or another install if not directly in grub menu.

    More details in link in my signature. (lots of info)

    This shows both screens. Purple BIOS, grub menu for UEFI.

    Shows install with screen shots for both BIOS & UEFI, so you know which you are using.
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 12.04 on Asus X201E with preinstalled Windows 8

    As I mentioned I have CSM and Secure Boot disabled - it means that I boot in UEFI, therefore I must also make a bios-grub partition, to make Ubuntu work? Sorry but I completly do not realize the sense of existing UEFI - it was easier when all you had to do was to plug USB and make 3 partittions. Is it possible to make installation simple again? How do I turn off this UEFI? I do not see such option in my BIOS to simply turn it off.

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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 12.04 on Asus X201E with preinstalled Windows 8

    Only if you want to install in BIOS mode do you need a bios_grub partition, not with UEFI.
    UEFI uses the efi partition for booting.

    UEFI is the new way of booting and Microsoft complicated it a lot with secure boot. Many with just standard boot are able to just install with UEFI like we did with BIOS.
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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 12.04 on Asus X201E with preinstalled Windows 8

    Grub will auto install to sda's efi partition if you are installing from an UEFI boot and select sda
    My Ubuntu 12.04 is 64bit version and it boots with black, not purple screen(the purple screen apears later, when session is loading).

    I once created(with secure boot disabled) 3 partitions(/,home and swap). I am booting my pendrive in EFI mode(in BIOS/Boot I can choose wether to boot from disk, or USB EFI...something. I choose "sda" for bootloader to install, and always this grub error apears. So after installing Ubuntu with this error I should use a Boot-Repapir and fix this, yes?

    I read in the thread, that is in your signature:
    Use Windows Disk Tools to shrink Windows main partition, but not to create any new partitions, if installing on same drive. Reboot after shrink so it can run its repairs to its new size.
    So I should - working in Windows - shrink the partition with Windows, and of this shrinked area make a ext4 "/" partition for Ubuntu?

    Backup efi partition and Windows partition before Install of Ubuntu
    How do I know, with one partition is EFI in my case? Could you tell me, as you have got my Boot Repair log and a screenshoot?

    And yet here:

    As of 12.04.2 or later, it is possible to install on UEFI systems with Secure Boot enabled (using signed versions of Shim, GRUB, and the Linux kernel). This is only currently set up for Ubuntu (desktop, alternate, and server) and Edubuntu images due to pressures of time; we expect to enable it across the entire Ubuntu family for 12.04.3.

    Installing Grub for UEFI secure boot is only possible if you have booted your system using EFI with secure boot on. And some systems will only boot with UEFI and secure boot on or with CSM if secure boot is off. Best to test system to see which modes it boots in. In secure boot mode it will only show/allow systems that have secure boot.
    I must then turn on Secure Boot in BIOS and CSM and then install Ubuntu?
    I am getting lost in all of this...:/

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    Re: Installing Ubuntu 12.04 on Asus X201E with preinstalled Windows 8

    Generally best not to use secure boot. But if your system will only let Ubuntu install in that mode you can.

    Your sda1 is the system partition with the boot flag. In gpt partitioning the boot flag is really just the setting that says that is the efi or ESP partition.

    Your parted -l in Boot info report also showed this:

    Partition Start Sector End Sector # of Sectors System
    /dev/sda1 2,048 616,447 614,400 EFI System partition
    you have already made the unallocated and the Linux partitions. If you did not reboot Windows it has not done its chkdsk repairs yet. Best to boot Windows before the install. Once you get grub working it can only boot a working install of Windows and sometimes even Windows needs repairs, so having a Windows repair CD or flash drive is highly recommended.
    Last edited by oldfred; December 3rd, 2013 at 05:23 PM.
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