GNOME Classic & Flashback sessions

[Hazzabin]

Got it going pretty smooth at this point. I installed the Ubuntu+Unity ISO and am getting ready to install gnome-session-flashback all by itself as you mentioned. I'd like to give Unity more of a chance but I cannot get the buttons to move to the right as I am used to. I keep pressing the wrong window buttons. Here goes..... What could go wrong right?

The above is what I did and found the Ubuntu Unity with gnome session flashback to be almost perfect, and I also did it for same reasons buttons on the right side.
3 days and still going strong, well least mine is

[Cavsfan]

The above is what I did and found the Ubuntu Unity with gnome session flashback to be almost perfect, and I also did it for same reasons buttons on the right side.
3 days and still going strong, well least mine is

Unity is working pretty well is seems like while flashback is semi ok but not perfect. My conky won't run in flashback but it will in Unity which is odd.
It seemed that the gear button at the top right would logout and restart before I installed flashback but, now those 2 items do not work in either flashback or unity.
Here is exactly what installed and I didn't install any suggested packages:

cavsfan@cavsfan-MS-7259:~$ sudo apt-get install gnome-session-flashback
[sudo] password for cavsfan: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  alacarte gir1.2-gconf-2.0 gir1.2-panelapplet-4.0 gnome-applets gnome-applets-data gnome-control-center gnome-control-center-data gnome-media gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-screensaver gnome-session
  gnome-settings-daemon gstreamer0.10-gconf indicator-applet-complete libgnome-media-profiles-3.0-0 libgoa-backend-1.0-1 libpanel-applet-4-0 metacity notification-daemon
Suggested packages:
  tomboy gnome-netstatus-applet deskbar-applet cpufrequtils desktop-base gnome-themes-standard
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  alacarte gir1.2-gconf-2.0 gir1.2-panelapplet-4.0 gnome-applets gnome-applets-data gnome-control-center gnome-control-center-data gnome-media gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-screensaver gnome-session
  gnome-session-flashback gnome-settings-daemon gstreamer0.10-gconf indicator-applet-complete libgnome-media-profiles-3.0-0 libgoa-backend-1.0-1 libpanel-applet-4-0 metacity notification-daemon
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[Cavsfan]

It would seem that when you install Ubuntu+Unity alone everything seems to work pretty well.
But once you throw gnome flashback in the mix, a lot of things break.

IMO the developers have their job cut out for them to get them working together.

Which is why I was thinking that the plain Ubuntu ISO with Unity should not allow gnome flashback to be added.
While the UbuntuGnome ISO should not have Unity on it and just gnome flashback and gnome classic.
I wonder if that is the way it will pan out.

[kansasnoob]

It would seem that when you install Ubuntu+Unity alone everything seems to work pretty well.
But once you throw gnome flashback in the mix, a lot of things break.

IMO the developers have their job cut out for them to get them working together.

Which is why I was thinking that the plain Ubuntu ISO with Unity should not allow gnome flashback to be added.
While the UbuntuGnome ISO should not have Unity on it and just gnome flashback and gnome classic.
I wonder if that is the way it will pan out.

Not a chance in the world

Ubuntu GNOME's focus is on being as close to pure GNOME as possible using Ubuntu as it's base. The GNOME devs have no interest in supporting either the flashback session or compiz.

OTOH Edubuntu, which does receive a lot of internal support from Canonical, does rely on flashback w/metacity for it's LTSP installs so by the time 14.04.1 drops you should be able to expect the flashback w/metacity session to work fairly well.

If I had my druthers I'd prefer we stop offering the flashback w/compiz session altogether because it doesn't really get any love at the *buntu level

[Cavsfan]

Not a chance in the world

Ubuntu GNOME's focus is on being as close to pure GNOME as possible using Ubuntu as it's base. The GNOME devs have no interest in supporting either the flashback session or compiz.

OTOH Edubuntu, which does receive a lot of internal support from Canonical, does rely on flashback w/metacity for it's LTSP installs so by the time 14.04.1 drops you should be able to expect the flashback w/metacity session to work fairly well.

If I had my druthers I'd prefer we stop offering the flashback w/compiz session altogether because it doesn't really get any love at the *buntu level

Thanks for that inspiring information!

[Cavsfan]

If I had my druthers I'd prefer we stop offering the flashback w/compiz session altogether because it doesn't really get any love at the *buntu level

If compiz is so unloved by the developers, then why does compiz come installed on a basic Ubuntu+Unity ISO?

IMHO flashback w/compiz is way more popular than flashback w/metacity. I have heard many, many people say they are running flashback w/compiz.

If you got your druthers, there would probably be many jump from Ubuntu to another disto.

Just sayin...

[kansasnoob]

If compiz is so unloved by the developers, then why does compiz come installed on a basic Ubuntu+Unity ISO?

IMHO flashback w/compiz is way more popular than flashback w/metacity. I have heard many, many people say they are running flashback w/compiz.

If you got your druthers, there would probably be many jump from Ubuntu to another disto.

Just sayin...

My point is that none of the official Ubuntu flavors focus on, or devote any resources to flashback w/compiz, whereas Edubuntu dev does provide support for flashback w/metacity. Don't worry about me getting my druthers - it seldom happens

[philinux]

If compiz is so unloved by the developers, then why does compiz come installed on a basic Ubuntu+Unity ISO?

Simples. Unity is a compiz plugin.

[kansasnoob]

Simples. Unity is a compiz plugin.

Isn't there a planned change in that regard?

I don't mean in Trusty, but in the future getting away from compiz altogether?

[philinux]

http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/08/27/...d-convergence/
I think that would be unity 8.

Aka unity next.

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/u...ject-announced