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    VIA S3 Savage graphics card

    I play with Ubuntu every few years but thats about it... I've been working with this computer for a few days now and can't get much done even with a lot of research. I've managed to connect to the internet and my USB printer but that's it.

    Running Xubuntu 10.10 (Issues installing anything 11.04 or later)
    I've been having a lot of issues getting packages to download, I've only been able to manually. Even some of those don't work.

    I've tried logging on as root, i've changed my user account to administrator and put in the root group.

    I can't edit the sources.list file , "Can't open file to write" is what I get when I try to save.
    In terminal, I try to open it and get "error opening terminal: unknown"

    Same thing happens with resolv.conf and printcap.

    This is what I get when I try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"

    Code:
    <XT938:~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade                        
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick Release.gpg
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main Translation-en       
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main Translation-en_US    
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/multiverse Translation-en 
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/multiverse Translation-en_US
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/restricted Translation-en
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/restricted Translation-en_US
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe Translation-en
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe Translation-en_US
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates Release.gpg
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main Translation-en
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main Translation-en_US
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/multiverse Translation-en
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/multiverse Translation-en_US
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/restricted Translation-en
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/restricted Translation-en_US
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/universe Translation-en
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/universe Translation-en_US
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick Release                    
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security Release.gpg         
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security/main Translation-en
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security/main Translation-en_US
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security/multiverse Translation-en
    Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick Release.gpg                    
    Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main Translation-en    
    Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/main Translation-en_US 
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security/multiverse Translation-en_US
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security/restricted Translation-en
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security/restricted Translation-en_US
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security/universe Translation-en
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-security/universe Translation-en_US
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates Release            
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/main Sources               
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/restricted Sources
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security Release             
    Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick Release                        
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/universe Sources
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/multiverse Sources
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/main i386 Packages
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/restricted i386 Packages
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/universe i386 Packages     
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/multiverse i386 Packages   
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/main Sources       
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/restricted Sources 
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/universe Sources   
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/multiverse Sources 
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/main Sources/DiffIndex
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/main i386 Packages 
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/restricted i386 Packages
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/universe i386 Packages
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/multiverse i386 Packages
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/main Sources
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/restricted Sources
    Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick/main Sources
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/universe Sources
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/multiverse Sources
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/main i386 Packages
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/restricted i386 Packages
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/universe i386 Packages     
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/multiverse i386 Packages   
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/main Sources       
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/restricted Sources 
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/universe Sources   
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/multiverse Sources 
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/restricted Sources/DiffIndex
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/universe Sources/DiffIndex
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/multiverse Sources/DiffIndex
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/main i386 Packages/DiffIndex
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/restricted i386 Packages/DiffIndex
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/universe i386 Packages/DiffIndex
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/multiverse i386 Packages/DiffIndex
    Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick/main i386 Packages
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/main i386 Packages
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/restricted i386 Packages
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/universe i386 Packages
    Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/multiverse i386 Packages
    Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/main Sources               
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/restricted Sources         
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/universe Sources           
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/multiverse Sources         
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/main i386 Packages         
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/restricted i386 Packages   
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/main Sources        
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/restricted Sources  
    Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/universe i386 Packages     
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/multiverse i386 Packages   
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/main Sources       
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/restricted Sources 
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick/main Sources                   
    Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/universe Sources   
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/multiverse Sources
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/main i386 Packages
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/restricted i386 Packages
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/universe i386 Packages
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com maverick-updates/multiverse i386 Packages
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/universe Sources    
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/multiverse Sources
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/main i386 Packages
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/restricted i386 Packages
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/universe i386 Packages
    Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick/main i386 Packages
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/multiverse i386 Packages
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/main Sources
    Err http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick/main Sources
      404  Not Found
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/restricted Sources
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/universe Sources
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/multiverse Sources
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/main i386 Packages
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/restricted i386 Packages
    Err http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick/main i386 Packages
      404  Not Found
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/universe i386 Packages
    Ign http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/multiverse i386 Packages
    Err http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/main Sources
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
    Err http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/restricted Sources
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
    Err http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/universe Sources
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
    Err http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/multiverse Sources
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
    Err http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/main i386 Packages
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
    Err http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/restricted i386 Packages
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
    Err http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/universe i386 Packages
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
    Err http://security.ubuntu.com maverick-security/multiverse i386 Packages
      404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
    W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/restricted/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/universe/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-updates/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-updates/restricted/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-updates/universe/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-updates/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-updates/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-security/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-security/restricted/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-security/universe/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-security/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
    
    W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.181 80]
    
    E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
    michael@michael-P5285A-ABA-XT938:~$ sudo nano /etc/printcap
    Error opening terminal: unknown.
    michael@michael-P5285A-ABA-XT938:~$ whoami
    michael
    michael@michael-P5285A-ABA-XT938:~$ whoami
    michael
    michael@michael-P5285A-ABA-XT938:~$ sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
    Error opening terminal: unknown.
    michael@michael-P5285A-ABA-XT938:~$ sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf
    Error opening terminal: unknown.
    michael@michael-P5285A-ABA-XT938:~$
    If you need more info, which I'm sure I left out, let me know.

  2. #2
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    Re: Can't access repositories, edit source.list as root

    10.10 is unsupported, therefore the repositories are no longer there. You could try the server for old releases, search the forum on how to do this. You'll have to modify sources.list manually. You can edit the file with gksu gedit <filename>. Don't try logging in as root.

    Can you give some details about your hardware? With some work, it may be possible to install a recent version of Ubuntu or one of it's lighter flavours after all.

    Edit: I see you have a problem with sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list, which should work.
    Last edited by Impavidus; October 22nd, 2013 at 01:27 PM.

  3. #3
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    Re: Can't access repositories, edit source.list as root

    I have an HP Pavilion xt938, 512 MB RAM, 1.3GHz Athlon processor. onboard graphics, 32MB memory.

    I'd love to install a new version but the issues I have are that the desktop installers have issues displaying correctly, the screen is jacked. I don't know if the onboard graphics can handle it or what. I've tried two monitors and two VGA cables.

    I've tried the alternate install as well and it gets stuck in the beginning with the language selection. I'm having trouble remembering what exactly happens so I'll run through it again. And I've been doing installs from USB via PLoP boot manager.

    I'll look for the old repositories as well.

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    Re: Can't access repositories, edit source.list as root

    You must use Lubuntu on that machine.
    http://lubuntu.net/
    "Evolution is Nature's way of issuing upgrades."


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    Re: Can't access repositories, edit source.list as root

    Should I be able to install 13.10? I've tried lubuntu as well.... I have graphics issues with the desktop installer, with the alternate installer it is stuck at the language select screen. With either install, I have never been able to select a language, but with the desktop installer it counts down and proceeds on its own, and then the desktop loads and is not displaying right.

    Alternate install just sits on the language select screen, unresponsive. Is it possible my keyboard isn't working for the install? It's a wireless logitech keyboard but it works fine in BIOS and PLoP.

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    Re: Can't access repositories, edit source.list as root

    What graphics card do you have on that machine?

    Have you tried the NOMODESET option?

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
    Last edited by fantab; October 22nd, 2013 at 02:16 PM.
    "Evolution is Nature's way of issuing upgrades."


  7. #7
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    Re: Can't access repositories, edit source.list as root

    Onboard graphics, VIA S3 Savage for, UMA up to 32mb.

    According to the motherboard specs, it has an AGP slot, but it looks like the socket was removed, or never installed...

    Will look into the nomodeset option.

  8. #8
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    Re: Can't access repositories, edit source.list as root

    I'm upgrading to 11.04 as we speak.... (xubuntu) I mounted the iso from flash drive and am upgrading that way... was goin alright but now says
    Could not calculate the upgrade
    An unresolvable probem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
    E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages

    I'm unable to select the language, and other options to get to nomodeset for the desktop cd, i think my wireless keyboard isnt recognized at that stage. I'm trying to get my hands on a wired ps2 keyboard now.

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    Re: Can't access repositories, edit source.list as root

    Upgrading is risky. Upgrading through unsupported versions like 11.04 and 11.10 is even more.

    I would suggest beginning with the 13.10 mini.iso. Please post again when that works and then we can take a look at the desktop environment.

    Besides... if you can get another graphics card it will make a big difference. Do you have a PCI or PCI-E slot?
    Bringing old hardware back to life. About problems due to upgrading.
    Please visit Quick Links -> Unanswered Posts
    Don't use this space for a list of your hardware. It only creates false hits in the search engines.

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    Re: Can't access repositories, edit source.list as root

    Quote Originally Posted by mörgæs View Post
    Upgrading is risky. Upgrading through unsupported versions like 11.04 and 11.10 is even more.

    I would suggest beginning with the 13.10 mini.iso. Please post again when that works and then we can take a look at the desktop environment.

    Besides... if you can get another graphics card it will make a big difference. Do you have a PCI or PCI-E slot?
    Well... I do have some PCI slots but I don't know that I care enough to spend money on a pci video card. I will look into the minimal install if I can't get it to work this time with the 13.10 I have. I have a PS/2 keyboard hooked up now, and am able to use that since the wireless one wasn't working on the language select screen.

    If I do manage to get a supported release installed I think that would most likely fix my issues. I'll see how it goes from here.

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