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    Re: How can I break a development release installed on my machine?

    Quote Originally Posted by amjjawad View Post
    I want to learn how to break an installed system [...]

    Any good suggestions?
    One of my favorite ways is to [redacted].

    Have fun...

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    Last edited by VinDSL; September 21st, 2013 at 08:11 PM.
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    Re: How can I break a development release installed on my machine?

    OSmetimes I get data corruption when I am overclocking. Today I aquired a bundle of old 3.20GHz Celeron Ds and I am currently at 4.591GHz stable with saucy. Don't try this unless you got the extra machines or processors.

    Code:
    ventrical@ventrical-P4M266A-8237:~$ sudo dmidecode -t processor | grep "Speed"
    [sudo] password for ventrical: 
        Max Speed: 4000 MHz
        Current Speed: 4591 MHz
    ventrical@ventrical-P4M266A-8237:~$ sensors
    atk0110-acpi-0
    Adapter: ACPI interface
    Vcore Voltage:      +1.56 V  (min =  +1.45 V, max =  +1.75 V)
     +3.3 Voltage:      +1.66 V  (min =  +3.00 V, max =  +3.60 V)
     +5.0 Voltage:      +1.58 V  (min =  +4.50 V, max =  +5.50 V)
    +12.0 Voltage:     +12.09 V  (min = +11.20 V, max = +13.20 V)
    CPU FAN Speed:     4066 RPM  (min =    0 RPM, max = 1800 RPM)
    CHASSIS FAN Speed:    0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM, max = 1800 RPM)
    POWER FAN Speed:      0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM, max = 1800 RPM)
    CPU Temperature:    +33.0C  (high = +90.0C, crit = +125.0C)
    MB Temperature:     +32.0C  (high = +70.0C, crit = +125.0C)
    Power Temperature:  +21.0C  (high = +80.0C, crit = +125.0C)
    
    nouveau-pci-0400
    Adapter: PCI adapter
    temp1:        +38.0C  (high = +95.0C, hyst =  +3.0C)
                           (crit = +105.0C, hyst =  +5.0C)
                           (emerg = +135.0C, hyst =  +5.0C)
    
    ventrical@ventrical-P4M266A-8237:~$
    ok.. so I'll try for 4.7GHz lol
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    Re: How can I break a development release installed on my machine?

    Play around with graphics drivers or activate the x-edgers ppa.

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    Re: How can I break a development release installed on my machine?

    I got to here:

    Code:
    ventrical@ventrical-P4M266A-8237:~$ sensors
    atk0110-acpi-0
    Adapter: ACPI interface
    Vcore Voltage:      +1.56 V  (min =  +1.45 V, max =  +1.75 V)
     +3.3 Voltage:      +1.67 V  (min =  +3.00 V, max =  +3.60 V)
     +5.0 Voltage:      +1.59 V  (min =  +4.50 V, max =  +5.50 V)
    +12.0 Voltage:     +12.09 V  (min = +11.20 V, max = +13.20 V)
    CPU FAN Speed:     4141 RPM  (min =    0 RPM, max = 1800 RPM)
    CHASSIS FAN Speed:    0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM, max = 1800 RPM)
    POWER FAN Speed:      0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM, max = 1800 RPM)
    CPU Temperature:    +36.0C  (high = +90.0C, crit = +125.0C)
    MB Temperature:     +33.0C  (high = +70.0C, crit = +125.0C)
    Power Temperature:  +19.0C  (high = +80.0C, crit = +125.0C)
    
    nouveau-pci-0400
    Adapter: PCI adapter
    temp1:        +37.0C  (high = +95.0C, hyst =  +3.0C)
                           (crit = +105.0C, hyst =  +5.0C)
                           (emerg = +135.0C, hyst =  +5.0C)
    
    ventrical@ventrical-P4M266A-8237:~$ sudo dmidecode -t processor | grep "Speed"
    [sudo] password for ventrical: 
        Max Speed: 4000 MHz
        Current Speed: 4931 MHz
    and then higher than that and ff starts to get unstable, but not broken. Guess I should raise the vCore voltage lol
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    Re: How can I break a development release installed on my machine?

    Quote Originally Posted by ventrical View Post

    and then higher than that and ff starts to get unstable, but not broken. Guess I should raise the vCore voltage lol
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    Re: How can I break a development release installed on my machine?

    I am beggining to wonder if I am getting a false report because my core heat is not increasing and I am only using a large , modded, Cooler Master air only.

    Sorry for being off topic. I went to a surplus garage sale and there were a bunch of these Celeon Ds 3.20GHzs for cheap so I am not worried frying them ...

    Code:
    ventrical@ventrical-P4M266A-8237:~$ sensors
    atk0110-acpi-0
    Adapter: ACPI interface
    Vcore Voltage:      +1.57 V  (min =  +1.45 V, max =  +1.75 V)
     +3.3 Voltage:      +1.67 V  (min =  +3.00 V, max =  +3.60 V)
     +5.0 Voltage:      +1.58 V  (min =  +4.50 V, max =  +5.50 V)
    +12.0 Voltage:     +12.09 V  (min = +11.20 V, max = +13.20 V)
    CPU FAN Speed:     4141 RPM  (min =    0 RPM, max = 1800 RPM)
    CHASSIS FAN Speed:    0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM, max = 1800 RPM)
    POWER FAN Speed:      0 RPM  (min =    0 RPM, max = 1800 RPM)
    CPU Temperature:    +29.0C  (high = +90.0C, crit = +125.0C)
    MB Temperature:     +25.0C  (high = +70.0C, crit = +125.0C)
    Power Temperature:  +19.0C  (high = +80.0C, crit = +125.0C)
    
    nouveau-pci-0400
    Adapter: PCI adapter
    temp1:        +33.0C  (high = +95.0C, hyst =  +3.0C)
                           (crit = +105.0C, hyst =  +5.0C)
                           (emerg = +135.0C, hyst =  +5.0C)
    
    ventrical@ventrical-P4M266A-8237:~$ sudo dmidecode -t processor | grep "Speed"
    [sudo] password for ventrical: 
        Max Speed: 4000 MHz
        Current Speed: 5051 MHz
    ventrical@ventrical-P4M266A-8237:~$ lsb_release -a
    No LSB modules are available.
    Distributor ID:    Ubuntu
    Description:    Ubuntu Saucy Salamander (development branch)
    Release:    13.10
    Codename:    saucy
    ventrical@ventrical-P4M266A-8237:~$
    Ok.. I guess the Celeron D 352s are still the overclocking cpus of choice and high speeds on stock cooling are normal lol
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...cy_Record.html
    Last edited by ventrical; September 22nd, 2013 at 08:29 AM.
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    Re: How can I break a development release installed on my machine?

    Quote Originally Posted by ventrical View Post
    Ok.. I guess the Celeron D 352s are still the overclocking cpus of choice and high speeds on stock cooling are normal lol

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...cy_Record.html
    AMD Bulldozer holds the world record...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulldo...)#Overclocking
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    Re: How can I break a development release installed on my machine?

    Quote Originally Posted by VinDSL View Post
    AMD Bulldozer holds the world record...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulldo...)#Overclocking

    lol ..

    When it comes to liquid hemium .. it's all up in the air at that point... jk

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    Re: How can I break a development release installed on my machine?

    This is an update on my attempt to break Ubuntu Gnome or rather not break it, by running it on xmir. I have learnt a few things.

    1) Installing lightdm brings in Unity. It is an altenative desktop at log in.
    2) Lightdm does more than just manage the login screen. According to the Ubuntu wiki

    The most user visible aspect of the display manager is the login screen, however it also manages the X servers and facilitates remote logins using the XDMCP protocol.
    So, I guess that Mir will replace lightdm. I am now going to try to revert back to gdm to see if the xmir module still loads. Some how I do not think it will. Although I use Ubuntu+Unity I do think that the GDM login screen suits Ubuntu Gnome. It is part of the concept. So, I suppose the question is can gdm be patched to load xmir? Most likely but messing with source code is beyond this practical experimenter. And the Ubuntu Gnome developers have enough to do at this time.

    Regards.

    Update: Found a new way to break an OS. Mis-type when editing a system file or script.

    In Ubuntu Gnome we can revert from Lightdm to gdm by editing /etc/X11/default-display-manager and changing

    /usr/sbin/lightdm
    to
    /usr/sbin/gdm
    That brings back GDM as the display manager and with it the Ubuntu Gnome log in screen but the xmir module does not load. A pity. But at least I have narrowed the issue to within GDM. But if a person wants Unity as an alternative desktop on Ubuntu Gnome and they are happy with the lightdm log in screen then they can also have Ubuntu Gnome on xmir.

    A thought just occurs to me. A different approach would be to modify lightdm to load the gdm log in screen. So, that lightdm is the display manger but the log in screen is the Ubuntu Gnome version. Now, how do i do that? More thinking and experimentation required.

    Regards.
    Last edited by grahammechanical; September 23rd, 2013 at 02:04 PM.
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    Re: How can I break a development release installed on my machine?

    Quote Originally Posted by grahammechanical View Post
    This is an update on my attempt to break Ubuntu Gnome or rather not break it, by running it on xmir. I have learnt a few things.

    1) Installing lightdm brings in Unity. It is an altenative desktop at log in.
    2) Lightdm does more than just manage the login screen. According to the Ubuntu wiki

    ...

    A thought just occurs to me. A different approach would be to modify lightdm to load the gdm log in screen. So, that lightdm is the display manger but the log in screen is the Ubuntu Gnome version. Now, how do i do that? More thinking and experimentation required.

    Regards.
    Keep rolling Graham. You're on fire here.

    Regards..
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