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    Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method)

    Hi domino,

    keep the universe version. In any way, my edgy repod don't have it?
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    Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method)

    Thanks givré. I have full read/write access to all internal drives and partitions.

    Now I'm struggling with something that I don't really understand with the external USB drive. The 2 nautilus scripts, unmount_ntfs-3g and mount_with_ntfs-3g are still available under Edgy correct? if so, the link target is not correct.

    /usr/share/nautilus-scripts/mount_with_ntfs-3g
    /usr/share/nautilus-scripts/unmount_ntfs-3g

    nautilus-scripts directory does not exist.

    Anyway, If I reboot with the removable drive ON, it does not mount. If I reboot with removable drive OFF and turn it ON after I log into Xgl, the USB drive still does not mount.

    Code:
    admin@linux:~$ sudo fdisk -l | grep NTFS
    /dev/hda1               1        1912    15358108+   7  HPFS/NTFS
    /dev/hdc5            2206        4331    17077063+   7  HPFS/NTFS
    /dev/sda1   *           1        9729    78148161    7  HPFS/NTFS
    Code:
    # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
    #
    # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
    proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
    # /dev/hdc1
    UUID=3e809919-b451-4795-a1ae-bf9c0b299750 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
    # /dev/hda1
    #UUID=54880DC9880DAB16 /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
    /dev/hda1     /media/WinXP     ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0
    # /dev/hdc5
    #UUID=3A6C06126C05C999 /media/hdc5     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
    /dev/hdc5     /media/Vista     ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0
    # /dev/hdc6
    UUID=44AF-D459  /media/hdc6     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
    # /dev/hdc2
    UUID=baf0a5cf-ce93-4d51-b3a3-f552b9e576b6 none            swap    sw              0       0
    #/dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
    # /dev/sda1
    /dev/sda1     /media/External     ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0
    I hope it was a mistake or something I overlooked during ntfs-3g install.

    thanks

    EDIT:

    After doing some testing, it turns out that creating /media/sda1 instead of forcing the removable drive to mount in /media/External fixes the mounting problem. I now have full read/write access to my external USB drive.
    Last edited by domino; October 16th, 2006 at 11:53 AM.

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    Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method)

    Hi,

    I decided to use the packages from the official repos, thus needed to downgrade manually (I did it by Synaptic, but it was an unpleasant task to do, package by package by hand... Btw, is there a better way?).

    After the downgrade (hal 0.5.7-1ubuntu18.1), my NTFS hard drive mounts OK with full rw support, but is not visible under the media:/ kioslave KDE uses. I guess that's because HAL doesn't recognize devices mounted by FUSE. So, my question is, are the necessary updates going to make it to the official repos, or do I necessarily HAVE TO use some of your packages (and which)?

    I'm asking because I don't want to rush things too much, to add a repository in order to have this feature a week or two earlier than the official repos...

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    Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method)

    The fix was apply in the edgy hal version :
    https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu...hal/+bug/35354
    * Add debian/patches/00upstream-06-stat-dev-not-mountpoint.patch:
    - hald/linux/blockdev.c, blockdev_refresh_mount_state(): Stat the special
    device file, not the mount point's underlying device. This makes hal
    correctly recognize fuse mounts.
    - Patch ported from upstream GIT, thanks to Florent Mertens!
    http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=hal...4ecbc2042e93d4
    - ClToses: LP#35354
    That's why i didn't put it in my edgy repo.
    But your hal seems to be the dapper one :
    2006-10-13 13:03:32 CEST Published edgy Release main admin 0.5.7.1-0ubuntu16
    2006-10-11 10:03:20 CEST Published dapper Proposed main admin 0.5.7-1ubuntu18.1
    And that's probably why that don't work. They didn't backport the patch to dapper
    You probably forget a dapper line in your sources.list. Check it.
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    Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method)

    I've installed libntfs/fuse2/ntfs-3g with apt-get and it seems there's no support of the Logical Disk Manager tools (known as 'ldminfo' & 'ldmutil').

    Is this normal ? Have these tool been suppressed with the new ntfs-3g ???

    Should i compile the kernel and check the CONFIG_LDM_PARTITION ?
    Last edited by MaB_fr; October 16th, 2006 at 09:01 PM.

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    Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method)

    Yes, I'm running dapper and I don't have your debs in sources.list. So, as far as I've understood, the patch will NOT be backported to dapper official repos, so the only way to make it work in dapper is to add your repos and get your version of hal?

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    Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method)

    Quote Originally Posted by domino View Post

    Now I'm struggling with something that I don't really understand with the external USB drive. The 2 nautilus scripts, unmount_ntfs-3g and mount_with_ntfs-3g are still available under Edgy correct? if so, the link target is not correct.

    /usr/share/nautilus-scripts/mount_with_ntfs-3g
    /usr/share/nautilus-scripts/unmount_ntfs-3g

    nautilus-scripts directory does not exist.

    Anyway, If I reboot with the removable drive ON, it does not mount. If I reboot with removable drive OFF and turn it ON after I log into Xgl, the USB drive still does not mount.

    ...

    EDIT:

    After doing some testing, it turns out that creating /media/sda1 instead of forcing the removable drive to mount in /media/External fixes the mounting problem. I now have full read/write access to my external USB drive.
    If I run sudo mount -all I have full access to the removable drive. But when I reboot while the drive if ON, it does not mount automatically and I have to run the sudo mount command again. Also, is there no more unmount script?

    Pls. note that I'm on Edgy 6.10

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    Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method)

    IT WORKED!! THANK YOU!!

    No, seriously, until now the fuse driver would mess up if I tried to copy over more than 2 or 3 files to my windows partition.

    Thanks again!

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    Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method)

    Quote Originally Posted by domino View Post
    If I run sudo mount -all I have full access to the removable drive. But when I reboot while the drive if ON, it does not mount automatically and I have to run the sudo mount command again. Also, is there no more unmount script?

    Pls. note that I'm on Edgy 6.10
    Try to remove the line about it in your /etc/fstab.
    Did you download my patched pmount (in the main-all channel of me repo) ?
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    Re: HOWTO: NTFS with read/write support using ntfs-3g (easy method)

    Quote Originally Posted by givré View Post
    Try to remove the line about it in your /etc/fstab.
    That did the trick. I got confused with the way dapper has the line in fstab and edgy doesn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by givré View Post
    Did you download my patched pmount (in the main-all channel of me repo) ?
    yes I did and it works well.

    Thanks for the support

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