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    Re: What came first Mir or Wayland?

    Quote Originally Posted by cortman View Post
    I hope this was just a typo- or else I'd like to see the source code for iOS.
    i was probably drunk at the time...but I was thinking of Darwin and OS/X.

    I guess that I am an odd man here in the Linux world - I am a true leftie who does not think the most evil corporation in the world is MS
    or even Apple. Like most of us, I use MS equipment daily and I used to have a G4 running the first version of OS/X about 13 years ago.

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    Re: What came first Mir or Wayland?

    Quote Originally Posted by RichardET View Post
    i was probably drunk at the time...but I was thinking of Darwin and OS/X.

    I guess that I am an odd man here in the Linux world - I am a true leftie who does not think the most evil corporation in the world is MS
    or even Apple. Like most of us, I use MS equipment daily and I used to have a G4 running the first version of OS/X about 13 years ago.
    iOS does run on Darwin as well but the userland on both Mac OS and iOS are propriatary.

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    Re: What came first Mir or Wayland?

    i've got a question, actually 3 :
    Why is the display server being changed? Is anything wrong with Xorg? Or is Mir or Wayland or both are going to be something far better?
    Please excuse my ignorance in the matter !
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    Re: What came first Mir or Wayland?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhattabhishek View Post
    i've got a question, actually 3 :
    Why is the display server being changed? Is anything wrong with Xorg? Or is Mir or Wayland or both are going to be something far better?
    Please excuse my ignorance in the matter !
    It's old and wasn't built with the types of displays used today in mind, such as tablets and phone displays.
    Plus it has a lot of functions that aren't even used anymore.
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    Re: What came first Mir or Wayland?

    Quote Originally Posted by deadflowr View Post
    It's old and wasn't built with the types of displays used today in mind, such as tablets and phone displays.
    Plus it has a lot of functions that aren't even used anymore.
    So today is a blue moon twice over! you've actually helped me twice over today !

    I guess I get the general idea!
    so basically in linux there is no tested display driver for todays hardware eh !!
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    Re: What came first Mir or Wayland?

    Remember that X11 is older than Linux by several years.
    So instead of making the display server work with linux, they made linux work with the display server.
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    Re: What came first Mir or Wayland?

    Now this i know!
    X11 came in eighties and linux only in 1992!
    in fact deviantart gave a journal entry from linux addicts group about this being the 22nd year of Linux!

    Strange, X11 haven't changed in nearly 35 years!
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    Re: What came first Mir or Wayland?

    Here an interesting video of X/wayland developer Daniel Stone on X and wayland
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIctzAQOe44&noredirect=1

    It is long.
    But informative.

    Edit: Oh and X11 is something like 25 years old.
    35 years ago was the seventies still.
    Last edited by deadflowr; August 29th, 2013 at 05:57 PM.
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    Re: What came first Mir or Wayland?

    Hey ! My Bad! simple wrong arithmatic !
    Last edited by su:bhatta; August 29th, 2013 at 09:38 PM.
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    Re: What came first Mir or Wayland?

    Quote Originally Posted by deadflowr View Post
    Plus it has a lot of functions that aren't even used anymore.
    I wont target the rest but i need to point out this dreadful misnomer.

    The feature most people point at as being "underused and pointless bloat" is X11's network capability (transparent if set up right) while it is true average Joe end user will never use this (as they never use most of UNIX like systems capabilities) it is still commonly used for secure remote administration via ssh tunneling you will even still see X11 based terminal and thin clients in some libraries, universities and scientific installations.
    Last edited by dusanyu; August 30th, 2013 at 01:05 AM.

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