Looks like you are asking for the opinion of someone who is opposed to Mir.
Now I myself m not opposed to Mir but lets take a look at Marks commentary on the matter:
The sky is not falling in.Really.Ubuntu is a group of people who get together with common purpose.
Right and that common purpose is to force a standard that is mostly untested and untrusted by many developers.
And with good reason, its a standard that you seem to want to force despite the issues it can cause.
Like app incompatibility, video card incompatibility and sofourth.
As an end user I am not interested in the inner politics of what i am using, but when those politics can cause issues is where I must draw the line.
If my favorite app cannot run because you decided to pull the rug under its foot and I cant use it anymore, then what value is your system.
We are not just talking about an interface here, but the thing that makes that interface work.
Its like taking out a gullbladder, sure you can live without it but removing it can cause very big issues.
How we achieve that purpose is up to us, and everyone has a say in what they can and will contribute.
Well that is a core to open source, but steering your ship into uncharted waters can be dangerous and maybe even deadly.
Canonical’s contribution is massive. It’s simply nonsense to say that Canonical gets ‘what it wants’ more than anybody else. Hell, half the time *I* don’t get exactly what I want. It just doesn’t work that way: lots of people work hard to the best of their abilities, the result is Ubuntu
Yes but when Ubuntu suffers because of jump decisions it does not bode well for the OS.
The combination of Canonical and community is what makes that amazing. There are lots of pure community distro’s. And wow, they are full of politics, spite, frustration, venality and disappointment. Why? Because people are people, and work is hard, and collaboration is even harder. That’s nothing to do with Canonical, and everything to do with life.
Nonsense, Canonical is making these decisions without thinking of the consequences, its is forcing things like Mir onto us and no one is willing to take it as it can and will break without proper testing.
Your company is making the same nonsense mistakes Microsoft is here, again by forcing a standard to an unready market.
Last time this happened there was this little thing called windows 8, perhaps you heard of it?
In fact, in most of the pure-community projects I’ve watched and participated in, the biggest meme is ‘if only we had someone that could do the heavy lifting’. Ubuntu has that in Canonical – and the combination of our joint efforts has become the most popular platform for Linux fans.
Well the main reason why ubuntu got so popular is that it is very user friendly overall and works fair enough, but this decision to go Mir and all that can and will endanger us if we are not careful
If you’ve done what you want for Ubuntu, then move on. That’s normal – there’s no need to poison the well behind you just because you want to try something else.
Yes but we are not poisoning the well, its you who is doing that, again by forcing his untested system onto us.
Canonical is all gung ho about Mir, and nobody else is.
Juse because you are all hyped for it doesnt mean everyone will bend to you here.
It’s also the case that we’ve shifted gear to leadership rather than integration.
When we started, we said we wanted to deliver the best of open source on a cadence. It was up to KDE, GNOME, XFCE to define what that was going to look like, we would just integrate and deliver (a hard problem in itself). By 2009 I was convinced that none of the existing free software communities could create an experience that could challenge the existing proprietary leaders, and so, if we were serious about the dream of a free software norm, we would have to lead.The result is Unity, which is an experience that could become widely adopted across phones, tablets, PCs and other devices.
In other words you needed to force others to accept your rules but when they went on their own you did your own thing.
Bu its not up to the developers alone to keep up compatibility.
Stuff needs to go both ways and you need to be understanding the needs of others sometimes
Of course, that is a disruptive change, and has caused some members of existing communities to resent our work. I respect that others may prefer different experiences, so we remain willing to do a large (but not unlimited) amount of work to enable KDE, GNOME, and other DEs to thrive inside the broader Ubuntu umbrella. We also take steps to accommodate developers who want to support both Unity and another DE.
Well thats a good thing however lets look at the most damning quote here:
But if we want to get beyond being a platform for hobbyists,
we need to accelerate the work on Unity to keep up with Android, Chrome, Windows and Apple. And that’s more important than taking care of the needs of those who don’t share our goal of a free software norm."
And creating an unready, untested interface will do that?
With this kind of statement you seem to have NO consideration for the end user.
You seem not to give a darn about those of us who want to actually you know what to use our computers.
In fact with moves like this your further isolate linux, you make it look like its this big complicated mess that only a high tech can understand.
Mir is a major thing, you fail to realize how few are willing to adapt to it.
You are relying on this thing that you have all your hopes for and i will stand and laugh when it all falls down.
We have had many changes in the linux world yes but nothing that could so easily break linux like Mir.
Mir is this tiny little spot on the map, it will take time to code it properly and make it work.
But no we have to rush head on and not consider the consequences.
Have we learned NOTHING for Microsofts attempts at a unifed system?
Dont you see the sales figures falling like a stone, or Microsofts current finances?
No, well read a newspaper sometime and call me back when you realize talk like this only damages things.
And i thought the gnome developers were out of touch...
And note: yes I know I said some contriversial things here, but they are in my honest opinion.
So if I feel that Mark is being foolish for falling into the same trap that Microsoft has, well thats just my opinion.
And really saying what he has makes it clear he has no clue on the possible issues that can rise because of it, seems very foolish no matter how you spin it.
Go ahead ban me, block me, or whatever, if differing opinions are unwanted then i will simply go elsewhere.
Just dont blame me when the walls fall down and you are all hearing complaints about how everything is reduced to a terminal and everyone either A: goes back to windows.
Or B search for a better distro... Like Fedora for example.