New xorg-server 1.14.1 has arrived

[zika]

I dunno... Maybe I just got lucky.
I couldn't get anywhere with 1.14.1 on this legacy machine, soooo...
I installed (edgers) xserver-xephyr 1.14.2 & xserver-common 1.14.2, and waited patiently for xserver-xorg-core 1.14.2 to be fully cooked (it was being held back, after the partial upgrade).
Yesterday, one or more of the dependencies that xserver-xorg-core 1.14.2 was waiting for was fulfilled.
Of note...

Commit Log for Mon Jul  8 12:46:19 2013
Removed the following packages:
xserver-xorg-input-mouse
xserver-xorg-video-vesa

I *thought* this was rather odd.
Just saying...

Did You try to re-install these two packages?

[VinDSL]

Did You try to re-install these two packages?

No. Everything seems to be running fine without them...

vindsl@Zuul:~$ apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-input-mouse
xserver-xorg-input-mouse:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1:1.7.2-3build1
  Version table:
     1:1.7.2-3build1 0
        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/main i386 Packages
vindsl@Zuul:~$ apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-vesa
xserver-xorg-video-vesa:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1:2.3.2-0ubuntu3
  Version table:
     1:2.3.2-0ubuntu3 0
        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/main i386 Packages
vindsl@Zuul:~$

[zika]

No. Everything seems to be running fine without them...

My mistake, I thought You need them...

[VinDSL]

My mistake, I thought You need them...

I thought so, too.

Weird, eh?

Here's something even weirder...

I've always had a problem with my mouse pointer jumping around the screen, for no apparent reason. For instance, I'll just be sitting here, reading a page, and the pointer will jump to the bottom, or top-left corner of the screen... whenever, wherever. It's like some poltergeist moves it on me.

It doesn't *seem* to be doing that now.

I'll keep an eye on it, and see if it's my imagination, or it's been fixed.

[VinDSL]

Hrm...

I was just checking the description of x11-xserver-utils, and it says:

An X client is a program that interfaces with an X server (almost always via
the X libraries), and thus with some input and output hardware like a
graphics card, monitor, keyboard, and pointing device (such as a mouse).

Perhaps, I've been inadvertently running two (or more) mouse drivers, all these years.

BTW, here's the extent of my xserver stable...

Working a treat, on this old dog...

[Harry33]

Hrm...

I was just checking the description of x11-xserver-utils, and it says:

An X client is a program that interfaces with an X server (almost always via
the X libraries), and thus with some input and output hardware like a
graphics card, monitor, keyboard, and pointing device (such as a mouse).

Perhaps, I've been inadvertently running two (or more) mouse drivers, all these years.
...
Working a treat, on this old dog...

Xserver-utils interfaces with some hardware...
It does not mean it includes drivers.

However, xserver-xorg-input-mouse is generally not needed at all.
That is because the newer pointing device driver system, xserver-xorg-input-evdev, takes care of it.
So if you have both -mouse and -evdev packages installed, your setup will use -evdev, not -mouse package.

[paul_in_london]

With proposed updates and xorg-edgers enabled there wasn't much sign that I would be able to upgrade to X Server 1.14.2 any time soon without removing anything.

Note to self of packages removed/upgraded:

paul@lubuntu-64:~$ sudo aptitude full-upgrade
The following packages will be upgraded: 
  libxfixes3 libxi6 xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mga 
  xserver-xorg-video-modesetting xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-qxl xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-tdfx 
  xserver-xorg-video-vmware 
15 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 3,317 kB of archives. After unpacking 1,024 B will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion : Depends: xorg-video-abi-13 which is a virtual package.
 xserver-xorg-video-sisusb : Depends: xorg-video-abi-13 which is a virtual package.
 xserver-xorg-video-savage : Depends: xorg-video-abi-13 which is a virtual package.
 xserver-xorg-video-neomagic : Depends: xorg-video-abi-13 which is a virtual package.
 xserver-xorg-input-synaptics : Depends: xorg-input-abi-18 which is a virtual package.
 xserver-xorg-input-mouse : Depends: xorg-input-abi-18 which is a virtual package.
 xserver-xorg-video-vesa : Depends: xorg-video-abi-13 which is a virtual package.
 xserver-xorg-video-cirrus : Depends: xorg-video-abi-13 which is a virtual package.
 xserver-xorg-video-mach64 : Depends: xorg-video-abi-13 which is a virtual package.
 xserver-xorg-video-fbdev : Depends: xorg-video-abi-13 which is a virtual package.
 xserver-xorg-video-trident : Depends: xorg-video-abi-13 which is a virtual package.
 xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse : Depends: xorg-input-abi-18 which is a virtual package.
 xserver-xorg-video-sis : Depends: xorg-video-abi-13 which is a virtual package.
 xserver-xorg-video-s3 : Depends: xorg-video-abi-13 which is a virtual package.
 xserver-xorg-video-r128 : Depends: xorg-video-abi-13 which is a virtual package.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

      Remove the following packages:    
1)      xserver-xorg-input-all          
2)      xserver-xorg-input-mouse        
3)      xserver-xorg-input-synaptics    
4)      xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse      
5)      xserver-xorg-video-all          
6)      xserver-xorg-video-ati          
7)      xserver-xorg-video-cirrus       
8)      xserver-xorg-video-fbdev        
9)      xserver-xorg-video-mach64       
10)     xserver-xorg-video-neomagic     
11)     xserver-xorg-video-r128         
12)     xserver-xorg-video-s3           
13)     xserver-xorg-video-savage       
14)     xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion
15)     xserver-xorg-video-sis          
16)     xserver-xorg-video-sisusb       
17)     xserver-xorg-video-trident      
18)     xserver-xorg-video-vesa         



Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] q
Abandoning all efforts to resolve these dependencies.
Abort.
paul@lubuntu-64:~$

The only ones I cared about keeping were xserver-xorg-video-fbdev and xserver-xorg-video-vesa, but in theory I should be able to add them again at some point.

All still seems to be working ok.

[VinDSL]

I'm running 1.14.2...

vindsl@Zuul:~$ apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-core:
  Installed: 2:1.14.2+git20130717+server-1.14-branch.54b125d1-0ubuntu0ricotz
  Candidate: 2:1.14.2+git20130717+server-1.14-branch.54b125d1-0ubuntu0ricotz
  Version table:
 *** 2:1.14.2+git20130717+server-1.14-branch.54b125d1-0ubuntu0ricotz 0
        500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu/ saucy/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     2:1.14.2-0ubuntu1 0
        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/main i386 Packages
vindsl@Zuul:~$ apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
xserver-xorg-video-fbdev:
  Installed: 1:0.4.3-0ubuntu3
  Candidate: 1:0.4.3-0ubuntu3
  Version table:
 *** 1:0.4.3-0ubuntu3 0
        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
vindsl@Zuul:~$ apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-vesa
xserver-xorg-video-vesa:
  Installed: 1:2.3.2-0ubuntu3
  Candidate: 1:2.3.2-0ubuntu3
  Version table:
 *** 1:2.3.2-0ubuntu3 0
        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
vindsl@Zuul:~$ apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau:
  Installed: 1:1.0.8+git20130710.8c1c5d4f-0ubuntu0sarvatt
  Candidate: 1:1.0.8+git20130710.8c1c5d4f-0ubuntu0sarvatt
  Version table:
 *** 1:1.0.8+git20130710.8c1c5d4f-0ubuntu0sarvatt 0
        500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu/ saucy/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     1:1.0.8-0ubuntu1.1 0
        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/main i386 Packages
vindsl@Zuul:~$

Yes, it removed the stuff you listed (above), but I simply reinstalled what I wanted.

Seems to work fine with 1.14.2

[paul_in_london]

Hi Vin,

Yep, seems to be ok here too.

I owe you another post about the 3.11-rc1 kernel and the legacy nvidia drivers! I'll do that quickly now.

Cheers,

Paul

[xeizo]

Yesterdays updates killed X hard for me, and various kernels worked so-so but eventually I got everything back up using yesterdays daily 3.11-kernel. Gnome-shell is smooth etc but I have the segfaulting Gimp issue...