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Thread: My new frustration - laptops with whitelisted wireless cards.

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    Re: My new frustration - laptops with whitelisted wireless cards.

    Quote Originally Posted by ssam View Post
    I have not seen this with disks. I used plenty of disks on my thinkpad x31 and ideapad s12 without trouble. not changed the main disk in my x230 yet, but it booted fine with a crucial mSATA ssd installed.

    I though the official reason for the wifi card lock was for RF regulations. That the laptop is only guaranteed to meet is FCC with an OEM wifi card. The regulations around stray emissions and RF kill switches are quite strict. Though that does not explain why other manufactures dont include these locks.

    My x230 has a intel card, so I have no need to swap it.

    ps: http://www.thinkwiki.org is quite a good resource for lenovo/ibm hardware
    Everything I've read suggests that this is the "excuse" that's used but that it doesn't hold any legal water. I'm no expert on the subject, but the first question that comes to mind is this... if all wireless cards must meet FCC regulations in order to be sold, why am I restricted on which FCC approved wifi chips work in my Lenovo? Furthermore, why is Lenovo bound by this "legal" restriction while other companies are not? Lenovo has been doing this as early as 2006, so this isn't new (I'm astounded I never heard of it before until recently), so if there was some sort of legality issue that's involved, I find it hard to believe that Lenovo would be playing ball while all other companies (besides HP) would have been ignoring it for the last 7 years...

    I'm calling it. It's a crock. If you look at some of the prices of Lenovo-branded wireless chips, things might come into perspective a little more. Quite the Apple move, in my opinion.

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    Re: My new frustration - laptops with whitelisted wireless cards.

    http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Proble...I_network_card
    IBM/Lenovo's reasoning for this is that the combination of MiniPCI card and the integrated antenna in the ThinkPad needs to be certified by the US FCC (Federal Communications Commission) or similar agencies in other countries.
    I doubt that Lenovo will soon change its stance since they may be subject to penalties from the US FCC and I suspect the US is their largest market.

    I have successfully used the 1802 hack on an IBM but not yet on either of my two Lenovos. I bought them with Intel cards for just the reasons you enumerate.
    Lenovo has been doing this as early as 2006, so this isn't new
    And IBM far earlier than that.

    http://joshuawise.com/wireless-whitelist

    Have you fully exhausted all the options with respect to your Broadcom?
    Last edited by chili555; July 2nd, 2013 at 04:48 PM.
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    Re: My new frustration - laptops with whitelisted wireless cards.

    Quote Originally Posted by chili555 View Post
    http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Proble...I_network_cardI doubt that Lenovo will soon change its stance since they may be subject to penalties from the US FCC and I suspect the US is their largest market.

    I have successfully used the 1802 hack on an IBM but not yet on either of my two Lenovos. I bought them with Intel cards for just the reasons you enumerate.And IBM far earlier than that.

    http://joshuawise.com/wireless-whitelist

    Have you fully exhausted all the options with respect to your Broadcom?
    Respect to Broadcom? They get none of that from me. I didn't purchase this unit, otherwise I would have undoubtedly picked an Intel card. I guess my frustration stems beyond any issues I'm having and into the realm of, what if a user wants to upgrade from N to AC? They just can't because Lenovo says so?

    With all do respect, I'm still calling their nonsense reasoning out. It's a crock.

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