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    startup issues on XUBUNTU

    Running Xubuntu 12.04 with XFCE 4.8. On startup, I get the following:

    No running instance of XFCE4 - PANEL was found. Do you want to start the panel ......

    and the options to cancel or execute. Clicking execute gives:

    Modifying the panel is not allowed. Because the panel is running in kiosk mode, you are not allowed to make changes to the panel as a regular user.

    and a close button. Clicking on Close gets me to the desktop. Please advise on correcting this condition and achieve normal operation.

    Thank you in advance.
    Last edited by jfbooth; June 15th, 2013 at 06:32 PM. Reason: edit Prefix from SOLVED to XFCE

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    Re: startup issues on XUBUNTU

    jfbooth; Hi !

    When you boot up your system; Are you intending to obtain a Desk Top manager ? which, if so,
    Are you booting to a TTY text login ? -> what command are you using to start the X session and Desk Top ?

    process, one thing then another


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    Re: startup issues on XUBUNTU

    Quote Originally Posted by Bashing-om View Post
    jfbooth; Hi !

    When you boot up your system; Are you intending to obtain a Desk Top manager ? which, if so,
    Are you booting to a TTY text login ? -> what command are you using to start the X session and Desk Top ?

    process, one thing then another



    This started happening after some kind of update from Update Manager. Before, it would smoothly boot up to XFCE with no errors ... then this started happening. Sorry, .. I have been confused for years about GNOME, XFCE, KDE ... etc, etc. To some extent, these are selectable desktop 'environments' .. I guess. I prefer XFCE (from what little I know). That is why I listed XFCE 4.8 in my post . not enough info???

    I boot to an XUBUNTU 'GUI' login screen ... user name, p/w, and XFCE chosen/default. Hope that answers that question. It is not a TTY text screen.

    As mentioned . not using any 'command' to start X session/Desktop. It WAS all done automatically after entering P/W ... and still does .... but with these error messages/notifications. I hope I have answered substantially ... and THANK you for your reply/support.

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    Re: startup issues on XUBUNTU

    jfbooth;

    Yeah, the desk top environments are but the eye candy for the interface to the kernel...different strokes for different folks.

    xfwm4's panel error... lets try this:
    boot up xfce4 and do terminal code:
    Code:
    rm ~/.config/xfce4/panel
    will be rebuilt upon next login to the default values.
    So, after removing the file, log out and log back in.

    What results ?

    cheers

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    Re: startup issues on XUBUNTU

    Quote Originally Posted by Bashing-om View Post
    jfbooth;

    xfwm4's panel error... lets try this:
    boot up xfce4 and do terminal code:
    Code:
    rm ~/.config/xfce4/panel
    will be rebuilt upon next login to the default values.



    Code:
    jb@jb-Compaq-PC:/$ rm ~/.config/xfce4/panel
    rm: cannot remove `/home/jb/.config/xfce4/panel': Is a directory
    and here are the contents of that directory:

    Code:
    jb@jb-Compaq-PC:~/.config/xfce4/panel$ ls
    launcher-10  launcher-12  netload-16.rc
    launcher-11  launcher-9   xfce4-notes-plugin-18.rc
    jb@jb-Compaq-PC:~/.config/xfce4/panel$
    with folders in BLUE

    EDIT: So .. I renamed 'panel' and REBOOTED. Logged back in and got the same startup errors. Looked at the folders/files and here is what I find:

    Code:
    jb@jb-Compaq-PC:~/.config/xfce4/panel$ ls
    netload-16.rc  xfce4-notes-plugin-18.rc
    and ICONS are now generic on PANEL 2 (bottom of screen).
    Last edited by jfbooth; June 12th, 2013 at 11:58 PM. Reason: additional info

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    Re: startup issues on XUBUNTU

    jfbooth; Yukk !

    Let me do some homework on this.. fyi , my output with xfce4 desktop:

    sysop@1304mini:~$ ls -la ~/.config/xfce4/panel
    total 8
    drwxrwxr-x 2 sysop sysop 4096 May 24 00:24 .
    drwxrwxr-x 6 sysop sysop 4096 Jun 3 23:45 ..
    sysop@1304mini:~$
    Totally different !

    Must be something in the desktop managers you have installed...

    I be looking
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    Re: startup issues on XUBUNTU

    Quote Originally Posted by Bashing-om View Post
    jfbooth; Yukk !

    Let me do some homework on this.. fyi , my output with xfce4 desktop:
    Totally different !

    Must be something in the desktop managers you have installed...

    I be looking

    Just to let you know ... when it did not get fixed ... I deleted 'panel' folder and went back to the ORIGINAL ... rebooted ... expecting to work (fail) as before. It did fail as before .. but now, .. the panel at the bottom of the desktop has just some generic icons ... which were different from originally:

    Screenshot - 06122013 - 07:23:47 PM.pngScreenshot - 06122013 - 07:23:47 PM.png

    No big deal .. just wanted you to know. I predicted that would not change.

    At the moment, here is what we have:

    Code:
    jb@jb-Compaq-PC:~/.config/xfce4$ ls
    desktop     panel              xfce4-notes.rc       xfconf
    helpers.rc  xfce4-notes.gtkrc  xfce4-screenshooter  xfwm4
    Code:
    jb@jb-Compaq-PC:~/.config/xfce4/panel$ ls
    launcher-10  launcher-12  netload-16.rc
    launcher-11  launcher-9   xfce4-notes-plugin-18.rc
    jb@jb-Compaq-PC:~/.config/xfce4/panel$
    and most importantly, .. THANK YOU.

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    Re: startup issues on XUBUNTU

    jfbooth; Hey.
    looking about and this is the suggested solution from several forums:
    log out of xfce
    ctl+alt+f1 to get a console
    in terminal enter:
    Code:
    rm -rf $HOME/.cache/sessions
    ctl+alt+f7 (GUI) and log back in.
    All now should be back to defaults, so have to reset all.

    For reference here is my listing - yours will differ somewhat.
    sysop@1304mini:~$ ls -la $HOME/.cache/sessions
    total 32
    drwx------ 4 sysop sysop 4096 Jun 12 19:50 .
    drwx------ 12 sysop sysop 4096 Jun 12 19:52 ..
    drwx------ 2 sysop sysop 4096 May 20 00:46 thumbs-1304mini:0
    drwx------ 2 sysop sysop 4096 May 24 18:52 thumbs-1304mini:1
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop sysop 2341 Jun 12 19:50 xfce4-session-1304mini:0
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop sysop 2341 Jun 9 02:46 xfce4-session-1304mini:0.bak
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop sysop 2030 May 24 18:52 xfce4-session-1304mini:1
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop sysop 0 May 24 18:52 xfwm4-22afcbde7-da73-40dd-a992-64145bb19889.state
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 sysop sysop 364 Jun 12 19:50 xfwm4-2b9216a38-3b45-49ff-9e3d-abe1c58ecb2f.state
    sysop@1304mini:~$
    I expect this to fix xfce, then look at the window managers... see if they survive intact or have to be repaired as well.

    progress small steps at a time
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    Re: startup issues on XUBUNTU

    Thank you for the valuable time you are spending. I really appreciate it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bashing-om View Post
    jfbooth; Hey.
    looking about and this is the suggested solution from several forums:
    log out of xfce
    I take that to mean 'log out' ... which will take me to a LOG IN screen ... which wants my P/W to the desktop (xfce). At THAT screen, hit:

    ctl+alt+f1 to get a console
    and get:

    in terminal
    Right??? I have never 'logged out of xfce' except to just log right back into it. After getting in terminal, don't I have to log in there before I can proceed?

    Confirm all this, and I will proceed. Thank you.


    enter:
    Code:
    rm -rf $HOME/.cache/sessions
    ctl+alt+f7 (GUI) and log back in.
    All now should be back to defaults, so have to reset all.
    Not sure what is meant by "reset all." If that means Application menus etc etc ... most everything I have is DEFAULT ... I would not know how to reconstruct (much).

    I expect this to fix xfce, then look at the window managers... see if they survive intact or have to be repaired as well.
    Window Managers??? Uhmmmm, ... maybe I need to back something up b4 I proceed. NEVER done a backup of any kind with Linux. In this case, isn't it just make a copy of HOME directory and put it somewhere safe (thumb drive or CLOUD) ... or is it more complicated than that (backing up whatever I need to back up)?. Sorry to be so ignorant.

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    Re: startup issues on XUBUNTU

    Yes, backup the /home directory, but not hidden files or Desktop or Lost&Found. Hit ctl+h to see hidden files if you want to have a look, and again to hide them.

    Back to the current situation. Once you're at the terminal, then input the command, but you may need a 'sudo' if you are not already root:

    Code:
    sudo rm -rf $HOME/.cache/sessions
    Just a heads up; please use default text rather than bold. I realis this may not have been intentional but just letting you know. Thanks.

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    Use color and font properties for highlighting portions of your text, and not for all of the text in your post. Please use the default font color and properties unless you need to highlight or draw attention to a part of your post. ALL CAPS is interpreted as screaming. Funky non-uniform font size/color is difficult for those who are visually impaired. If you are having problems with reading the font, please adjust your browser.
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