12.04 update - Grub - keyboard and mouse freeze

[Bashing-om]

Normand;

I a done for my eve, will check your status my next.

regards

[Normand]

Hi Bashing-om

Just to keep you up to date.
With the loan of an extra external hdd I have managed to back up 98% of data.
Some important music (2000 files) would not transfer because of having strange characters.
So I'm half deciding to try the re-partitioning method rather than the re-format.

But today has been full on with work demands and crises ... I can't see me having the relaxed clear space until tuesday am. i am in Barcelona Spain some 7 hours ahead of you. So I will come to it later.

Thanks again

[Normand]

OK I did all the Gparted stuff in your post number 18 - all fine.
I now have sdb with two ext4 partitions
- File storage .... with all my original data intact (thank you so much)
- /Data
and some unallocated space

I removed the live stick and rebooted.
It found the boot on sda and is up and running... 12.04 with an old version of my data (sda data)
Update manager still says it is 405 days since last update and seems to be looking for 10.10

This time I now have access to the keyboard in grub.

I will now try back in grub to see if I can find my up to date 12.04 version and sda data ... on the previous linux version .... and run an update from there

[Normand]

The grub menu shows:

Grub 1.99-21 ubuntu 3.9
ubuntu linux 3.2.0-48 generic

then all the previous linux versions were on /dev/sdb so now are not available
ubuntu linux 3.2.0-45 generic on /dev/sdb ((versions back to 3.2.0-40 appear))

So I must have been running linux from sdb without being aware of it.... maybe since installing the second hard drive just over a year ago!

Trying to run update Manager it tells me
Failed to download repository information
W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam...amd64/Packages 404 Not Found
, W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam...-i386/Packages 404 Not Found
, W:Failed to fetch http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/...amd64/Packages 404 Not Found
, W:Failed to fetch http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/...amd64/Packages 404 Not Found
, W:Failed to fetch http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/...amd64/Packages 404 Not Found
, W:Failed to fetch http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/...amd64/Packages 404 Not Found
, W:Failed to fetch http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/...-i386/Packages 404 Not Found
, W:Failed to fetch http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/...-i386/Packages 404 Not Found
, W:Failed to fetch http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/...-i386/Packages 404 Not Found
, W:Failed to fetch http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/...-i386/Packages 404 Not Found
, E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

[Bashing-om]

Normand; Making good progress !

Presently we are faced with two issues;
1) The data base for updated file acquisition
2) Getting grub updated

My priority is the data bases, to that end let us remove the sources for Mozillia/FireFox... can you recall why they are there ? As FF is fully supported out of the repositories ?I am not aware of a current need to resort to launchpad's ppa.
Post the output of:

cat /etc/apt/sources.list
ls -la /etc/apt/sources.list.d/

With the data base correct we can then get the files we need for grub's installation. I hope easily without resorting to purging the present grub. I have resorted to purging before... but that method permits no errors and NO interruption to power( kids, cats and thunderstorms), even that can be overcome !

Task at hand: fix the sources list.
I will be away from the keyboard for several hours, will check back in asap.

move'n on smartly

[Normand]

I am just on my way out to work ... back in 4 hours to try this

[Normand]

OK Bashing-om - here we are:

norman@norman-desktop:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
# See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
# newer versions of the distribution.

deb http://ubuntu.grn.cat/ubuntu/ precise main restricted
deb-src http://ubuntu.grn.cat/ubuntu/ precise main restricted

## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
## distribution.
deb http://ubuntu.grn.cat/ubuntu/ precise-updates main restricted
deb-src http://ubuntu.grn.cat/ubuntu/ precise-updates main restricted

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team. Also, please note that software in universe WILL NOT receive any
## review or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
deb http://ubuntu.grn.cat/ubuntu/ precise universe
deb-src http://ubuntu.grn.cat/ubuntu/ precise universe
deb http://ubuntu.grn.cat/ubuntu/ precise-updates universe
deb-src http://ubuntu.grn.cat/ubuntu/ precise-updates universe

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
## security team.
deb http://ubuntu.grn.cat/ubuntu/ precise multiverse
deb-src http://ubuntu.grn.cat/ubuntu/ precise multiverse
deb http://ubuntu.grn.cat/ubuntu/ precise-updates multiverse
deb-src http://ubuntu.grn.cat/ubuntu/ precise-updates multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
## repository.
## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
deb http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-backports main restricted universe multiverse
# deb-src http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-backports main restricted universe multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's
## 'partner' repository.
## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by Canonical and the
## respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu users.
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner
# deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu maverick partner

## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by third-party
## developers who want to ship their latest software.
deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main
# deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main

deb http://ubuntu.grn.cat/ubuntu/ precise-security main restricted
deb-src http://ubuntu.grn.cat/ubuntu/ precise-security main restricted
deb http://ubuntu.grn.cat/ubuntu/ precise-security universe
deb-src http://ubuntu.grn.cat/ubuntu/ precise-security universe
deb http://ubuntu.grn.cat/ubuntu/ precise-security multiverse
deb-src http://ubuntu.grn.cat/ubuntu/ precise-security multiverse
deb http://ubuntu.grn.cat/ubuntu/ precise-proposed restricted main multiverse universe
deb http://ubuntu.grn.cat/ubuntu/ precise-backports restricted main multiverse universe
deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu precise-getdeb apps
# deb-src http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu precise-getdeb apps

norman@norman-desktop:~$ ls -la /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
total 68
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 3 2012 .
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Jun 11 18:39 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 80 Jun 11 18:45 dropbox.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 80 Apr 21 2012 dropbox.list.distUpgrade
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 80 Jun 11 18:44 dropbox.list.save
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 285 Jun 11 18:45 medibuntu.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 310 Apr 21 2012 medibuntu.list.distUpgrade
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 284 Jun 11 18:44 medibuntu.list.save
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234 Jun 11 18:45 mozillateam-thunderbird-stable-natty.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234 Apr 21 2012 mozillateam-thunderbird-stable-natty.list.distUpgrade
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234 Jun 11 18:44 mozillateam-thunderbird-stable-natty.list.save
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 166 Jun 11 18:45 mozillateam-thunderbird-stable-precise.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 166 Jun 11 18:44 mozillateam-thunderbird-stable-precise.list.save
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 160 Jun 11 18:45 ubuntu-audio-dev-alsa-daily-precise.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 160 Jun 11 18:44 ubuntu-audio-dev-alsa-daily-precise.list.save
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 146 Jun 11 18:45 ubuntu-audio-dev-ppa-precise.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 146 Jun 11 18:44 ubuntu-audio-dev-ppa-precise.list.save
norman@norman-desktop:~$

[Normand]

Gone to Synaptic Package manager/Repositories/ other software and unticked:
- ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/thunderbird-stable/ubuntu precise main
- ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-audio-dev/alsa-daily/ubuntu precise main
- ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa/ubuntu precise main

Changed Download source back to Main Server

re-run your suggestions
norman@norman-desktop:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
# See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
# newer versions of the distribution.

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main restricted
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main restricted

## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
## distribution.
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-updates main restricted
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-updates main restricted

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team. Also, please note that software in universe WILL NOT receive any
## review or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise universe
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise universe
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-updates universe
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-updates universe

## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
## multiverse WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu
## security team.
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-updates multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-updates multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
## repository.
## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
deb http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-backports main restricted universe multiverse
# deb-src http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-backports main restricted universe multiverse

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's
## 'partner' repository.
## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by Canonical and the
## respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu users.
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner
# deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu maverick partner

## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by third-party
## developers who want to ship their latest software.
deb http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main
# deb-src http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-security main restricted
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-security main restricted
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-security universe
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-security universe
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-security multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-security multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-proposed restricted main multiverse universe
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-backports restricted main multiverse universe
deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu precise-getdeb apps
# deb-src http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu precise-getdeb apps

norman@norman-desktop:~$ $ ls -la /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
total 68
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 3 2012 .
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Jun 11 18:39 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 80 Jun 12 00:12 dropbox.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 80 Apr 21 2012 dropbox.list.distUpgrade
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 80 Jun 12 00:12 dropbox.list.save
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 285 Jun 12 00:12 medibuntu.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 310 Apr 21 2012 medibuntu.list.distUpgrade
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 285 Jun 12 00:12 medibuntu.list.save
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234 Jun 12 00:12 mozillateam-thunderbird-stable-natty.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234 Apr 21 2012 mozillateam-thunderbird-stable-natty.list.distUpgrade
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234 Jun 12 00:12 mozillateam-thunderbird-stable-natty.list.save
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 168 Jun 12 00:12 mozillateam-thunderbird-stable-precise.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 168 Jun 12 00:12 mozillateam-thunderbird-stable-precise.list.save
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 162 Jun 12 00:12 ubuntu-audio-dev-alsa-daily-precise.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 162 Jun 12 00:12 ubuntu-audio-dev-alsa-daily-precise.list.save
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 148 Jun 12 00:12 ubuntu-audio-dev-ppa-precise.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 146 Jun 12 00:12 ubuntu-audio-dev-ppa-precise.list.save
norman@norman-desktop:~$ total 68

Stopping there for now

[Bashing-om]

Normand; Ok I am back...
done a bit of research... mozillia on thunderbird is still supported... the "precice" entries you may untick.... we want the "natty" ones gone for good.
AND in the /etc/apt/sources.list FILE we want to "comment" out and/or remove one line.
Also prior prudent planning to make a backup of any file to-be edited first ...never can tell what might happen ...huh //

## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
deb http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-backports main restricted universe multiverse
## deb-src http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-backports main restricted universe multiverse

the "maverick-backports", unless you have a real good reason to use the old archives, do away with it.

Do the above and should have the package manager ready for business//
Then fire for effect:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

When that runs good... gonna go grub'n

simple as falling off a log ..but, we want to fall to the right

[Normand]

Good Morning Bashing-om

done:
sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
All fine, no problems. Update Manager is now happy. Now trying to recover audio ... following Sound troubleshooting threads.

On fire up this morning all the old grub lists for sdb have gone. Maybe this has sorted itself!

Questions remaining:

1. This is an AMD 64 system but the update listing (and when trying to repair sound) it is also loading i386 stuff. I had previously taken out any mention of i386 in the sources.list file .... but the system is still loading it in apt get update (for example). Not sure if this is creating problems.

2. The original "cause of the problem" in this thread .... that the system loaded and was running ubuntu on sdb (without me being aware of it) .. then the freeze up on the updates of 31 May. Not sure if this car re-occur.

Thanks again for all your help