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    To Ubuntu 13.04...or, not to Ubuntu 13.04 - Complete Disappointment

    Let me first start to say that I completely support patching bug #1....by no means! But I think 13.04 was rashed too much...or Ubuntu testing has gone down the hill big time.

    I have been a long time Ubuntu user. I started with 9.10 and moved to 10.04. ever since I have been using 10.04 pretty successfully. 9.10 has been great for me. Pretty well bundled. Everything worked, as it is supposed to be running, down to the smallest detail. I customized my gnome d
    desktop, nautilus, etc.

    recently I got a new laptop, put a larger disk and decided to start fresh with 13.04. What a disappointment that was...I have no problem moving from Gnome to Unity, nor issues with the installation. Installation was flawless.

    I am shocked that Canonical would let so many bugs go to their production release...Let me list a couple:

    - Suspend hangs my laptop - https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42977
    - Ethernet card does not work when the laptop works on a battery - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...x/+bug/1112652
    - Screen Lock does not work

    etc.

    And these are just a couple of MAJOR problems that are currently running out of my Ubuntu deployment. Plain vanilla install, with no other software. Still questioning the feasibility of the move to 13.04 and whether I should move at all...

    So here is the rhetorical question - are we trying to build a fix for bug #1, or simply following Microsoft's steps of releasing a release that is not prime time ready...??? Or is Canonical turning into Microsoft's mirror image, pushing things without proper testing and with no care it that really is going to work...??? Should I mention the disaster of Windows Vista?

    I think Canonical need to get their act together, before they go downhill....really fast...

    In the meantime, I would recommend to everyone that is looking at Ubuntu 13.04 to look at alternatives, test and see if everything would work fine before make the call.

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    Re: To Ubuntu 13.04...or, not to Ubuntu 13.04 - Complete Disappointment

    For me, 13.04 seems like a bug-fixed version of 12.10 with a few extra features and changes.
    The main reason for me to upgrade was performance and the cloud app monitor.

    I use ubuntu on my laptop (Thinkpad E420, i5-2540m, intel HD3000 graphics, 64-bit Linux) and i have noticed a great increase in battery life as unity has been tweaked to give much better performance. There have been far less compiz/unity crashes than a fresh 12.10 install AND i have noticed almost a 20-30% increase in battery life.

    I have not yet tested the performance of Unity on disctrete graphics (AMD Radeon HD6630m, fglrx Catalyst 13.4)

    I also like the changes to the user interface and style. The new cloud app indicator is useful to me as I use ubuntu one to sync between devices but do not want active syncing to occur when I am working on files as it would sync whenever I saved a file. Now I can easily turn off syncing without having to load the heavy Ubuntu One application.

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    Re: To Ubuntu 13.04...or, not to Ubuntu 13.04 - Complete Disappointment

    Quote Originally Posted by kargool View Post
    For me, 13.04 seems like a bug-fixed version of 12.10 with a few extra features and changes.
    I agree. It seems to run smoother as well. The 3D desktop effects are also nicely done and seem to be quite well optimised as I believe they work faster than the 12.10. The stability issues in 12.10 were too much for me so I went back to 12.04 after less than a month. 13.04 seems to be running well, however. The one issue I had with it, however, was that I was unable to start the 3D desktop right after the installation. It's annoying having to look for solutions to issues while unable to even open the desktop, let alone a web browser. The display driver defaults to Noveau and the 3D Unity just doesn't seem to work on my nVidia with Noveau. However, after switching to a proprietary nVidia driver through terminal everything seems to be fine. The main beef I have with Ubuntu about this is it's been an issue since they started Unity. You could resolve it by going in through Unity2D but the issue was not resolved even though Unity2D has been cancelled.

    I think that since you have the option to download updates and proprietary software such as mp3 support and Flash during installation they could add another option to download and install a proprietary display driver.

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    Re: To Ubuntu 13.04...or, not to Ubuntu 13.04 - Complete Disappointment

    I am running xubuntu 13.04 64bit on several machines no issue, i even started switching to it before April was here on production machines (i was running beta full time)
    only had 1 bug show up, and it was fixed during iso testing, and it had a easy workaround
    about a week before raring was released there was a bugged kernel, bad for nvidia gpus and lots of hdmi audio chips, upgrading to the mainline kernel solved this
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    Re: To Ubuntu 13.04...or, not to Ubuntu 13.04 - Complete Disappointment

    Quote Originally Posted by pqwoerituytrueiwoq View Post
    I am running xubuntu 13.04 64bit on several machines no issue, i even started switching to it before April was here on production machines (i was running beta full time)
    only had 1 bug show up, and it was fixed during iso testing, and it had a easy workaround
    about a week before raring was released there was a bugged kernel, bad for nvidia gpus and lots of hdmi audio chips, upgrading to the mainline kernel solved this
    The kernel bugs are that I encountered are still in Xubuntu, but I like Xuubuntu more than Unity.

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    Re: To Ubuntu 13.04...or, not to Ubuntu 13.04 - Complete Disappointment

    Quote Originally Posted by peshko-lnx View Post
    Let me first start to say that I completely support patching bug #1....by no means! But I think 13.04 was rashed too much...or Ubuntu testing has gone down the hill big time.
    I'd suggest if you feel that testing doesn't fix problems with your system, that you take part in testing, either by joining the Q/A team, or installing Saucy, and participating in threads in the U+1 sub-forum.

    The more people with different hardware testing, the better.

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    Re: To Ubuntu 13.04...or, not to Ubuntu 13.04 - Complete Disappointment

    Quote Originally Posted by cariboo907 View Post
    I'd suggest if you feel that testing doesn't fix problems with your system, that you take part in testing, either by joining the Q/A team, or installing Saucy, and participating in threads in the U+1 sub-forum.

    The more people with different hardware testing, the better.
    I will probably go for Saucy. I have no problem doing some testing and support the development.

    Thanks!

    /Peter

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    Re: To Ubuntu 13.04...or, not to Ubuntu 13.04 - Complete Disappointment

    I just downloaded Ubuntu 13.04 and gave it a spin for few days. Bottom line: I like it. I haven't encountered any notable bugs. There are some nice added touches compared to 12.04, and it does look nice and clean. I do like the fonts, and if there's a sluggishness, I don't see it on my Toshiba Satellite.

    More bottom line: I also just upgraded my Kubuntu to 13.04, and that has some nice minor improvements as well. All things considered, I still prefer Kubuntu over Unity.

    I've now gotten familiar with the big three -- Xubuntu, Kubuntu, and Ubuntu. Although I do have a personal favorite, that's just me. Any one of those DE's is actually a pleasure to use. None of them has shown any stability issues, or made me regret using them.

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    Re: To Ubuntu 13.04...or, not to Ubuntu 13.04 - Complete Disappointment

    But I think 13.04 was rashed too much...or Ubuntu testing has gone down the hill big time.
    Possibly stick with a LTS version
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    Re: To Ubuntu 13.04...or, not to Ubuntu 13.04 - Complete Disappointment

    Quote Originally Posted by pfeiffep View Post
    Possibly stick with a LTS version
    That's what I used to, but decided to check the latest one anyway. Had 10.04 running for a long time...

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