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    Censorship in "Syd's Thread"

    Why have all but one of my posts been removed from the "RIP Syd Barrett" Thread?

    KiwiNZ has said he doesn't condone using someone's illness against them, but I only mentioned it in the context can someone who has been Mentally Ill for the last 40 years (he had virtually no memory of his days in Pink Floyd) be remembered for a lifetime of Musical Achievment?

    I never used it (nor would I) as an insult. I never used "Crazy", "Loony" or any other form of abuse, indeed, I referred to it as "Sad". I've checked the guidelines (again) and don't believe I came close to breaking a single one of them.

    From my standpoint, it looks like I was censored for having an alternative view to the majority. Disagree with me, vehemently if you like, hell, call me names, (most have!) move me to the "Jail", I Don't Care, but just removing my posts because somebody doesn't agree with them smacks of the worst excesses of Dictatorships around the world.

    Interestingly, a post by "Papawhiskas" supporting my freedom to voice my opinion was also removed..................................

    Free as in beer? .......................................Check.

    Free as in speech? .......................................Hmmmm, jury's still out.

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    Re: Censorship in "Syd's Thread"

    I'm going to give you just a few notes from our guidelines here first, so that you can see what direction the staff takes in matters such as this:

    From the CoC (which is linked as our first set of guidelines):
    Be considerate. Be respectful.
    From the guidelines page:
    It should also be noted that this is a privately owned and operated site by Ubuntu-Geek; therefore posting here is a privilege rather than a constitutional 'right' to free speech and freedom of expression, we ask that the forum rules are followed at all times.
    Your posts were reported by multiple people as inappropriate for the thread. Because you chose to continue posting comments which question (and in some cases attack) others for posting their respects, your aggressive tactics threatened to completely derail the thread topic, and as such, were move into a new thread of it's own, so that you could have your say, and others that did not appreciate your comments could have theirs.

    This method was chosen so that you could continue your questioning.

    I am discussing this matter with staff to provide you with full information as to the events that happened from the time the thread was split.
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    Re: Censorship in "Syd's Thread"

    Thanks for the reply Kassetra.

    I still have issues with the way that this was initially handled, but for the sake of moving on it's time it was let go. I will just say that initially there was no "split" just a removal of my posts from the thread, and that I've seen many more "animated" threads let go.

    Many thanks to Frodon for his/her helpful and respectful PM's, who was instrumental in settling this issue without mention of "Runny Crap"! (Give 'em a Promotion!)

    Thanks again.
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    Re: Censorship in "Syd's Thread"

    Quote Originally Posted by openmind View Post
    Thanks for the reply Kassetra.

    I still have issues with the way that this was initially handled, but for the sake of moving on it's time it was let go. I will just say that initially there was no "split" just a removal of my posts from the thread, and that I've seen many more "animated" threads let go.

    Many thanks to Frodon for his/her helpful and respectful PM's, who was instrumental in settling this issue without mention of "Runny Crap"! (Give 'em a Promotion!)

    Thanks again.
    The thread was first moved to the backyard, and then split into two threads, one in the cafe, and one in the backyard. The one in the backyard contains all of your posts (that I can tell.) It has since been locked, but I believe all of your posts are still there. I have not seen any evidence that any of your posts have been removed (checking more detailed information now.)
    http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213783
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    Re: Censorship in "Syd's Thread"

    openmind I quote

    "The Dude's been Mentally incapacitated for the last 40 years almost!! Probably as a result of some really intense Drug use!! He bricked up his windows, spent long hours staring at the door. He only left the house to get tobacco or visit his sister and had no input into "Dark side" or "The Wall"

    Hardly inspiration for a generation is it?"



    How is that not using is disability to attack him?

    Disability be it mental or physical is not to be used to attack an individual or groups.
    Everyday those suffering endure the predjudice, the redicule and the ignorance of those who will use their conditions against them.

    I am disabled, I am in a wheelchair and I know all to well that predjudice that ignorance.I have to endure almost daily and believe me it hurts.

    But fortunately there is right on the side of those who suffer disablilty, those being the UN Declaration of Human rights. And no doubt the statutes of you own Country. Also the rules of this Forum and the Ubuntu Code of Conduct.

    If I see that behaviour here I will always take action accordingly.
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    Re: Censorship in "Syd's Thread"

    openmind I quote

    "The Dude's been Mentally incapacitated for the last 40 years almost!! Probably as a result of some really intense Drug use!! He bricked up his windows, spent long hours staring at the door. He only left the house to get tobacco or visit his sister and had no input into "Dark side" or "The Wall"

    Hardly inspiration for a generation is it?"



    How is that not using is disability to attack him?
    "The dude's been mentally incapacitated for the last 40 years almost" -Fact. (note: "Mentally incapacitated", not "loony" or some other derogatory term!)

    "Probably as a result of some really intense drug use" - Fact.

    "He bricked up his windows" - Fact.

    "spent long hours staring at the door" - Fact.

    "He only left the house to get Tobacco or visit his sister" - Fact.

    "and had no input in The Dark Side or The Wall" - Fact.

    "Hardly inspiration for a generation is it?" - My Strong Opinion.

    Hardly material to report to The UN Crimes Commission is it? No ridicule or attacks, just a series of Hard, Sad facts and my assumption at the end. Perhaps you saw something that just wasn't there?
    Disability be it mental or physical is not to be used to attack an individual or groups.
    Everyday those suffering endure the predjudice, the redicule and the ignorance of those who will use their conditions against them.

    I am disabled, I am in a wheelchair and I know all to well that predjudice that ignorance.I have to endure almost daily and believe me it hurts.

    But fortunately there is right on the side of those who suffer disablilty, those being the UN Declaration of Human rights. And no doubt the statutes of you own Country. Also the rules of this Forum and the Ubuntu Code of Conduct.

    If I see that behaviour here I will always take action accordingly.
    Your disability means nothing to me. There's undoubtedly things you can do that I can't, there's probably things I can do that you can't, just like anyone else. Doesn't mean that you can't be a D*ckHe*d just like everyone else, (even me!) I shouldn't need to tell you that you are Far more than your disability, just as Syd was. Doesn't mean to say that he was a musical genious either.

    I'm sorry that you have to go through ignorance and predjudice, most of us do for one reason or another, but (again just my opinion!) if you let it rule the decisions you make every day it's going to be a long, hard journey.



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