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    Re: Old hardware brought back to life

    They won't in the future but they do today.
    Lubuntu 18.04 is available for 32 bit with support until april 2021 as described in original post.

    I'm afraid that Lubuntu will fade out of people's attention after it goes medium-heavy-64-bit-only like all the other ones.
    Last edited by mrgs; December 28th, 2019 at 11:03 AM.

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    Re: Old hardware brought back to life

    Quote Originally Posted by mrgs View Post
    They won't in the future but they do today.
    Lubuntu 18.04 is available for 32 bit with support until april 2021 as described in original post.

    I'm afraid that Lubuntu will fade out of people's attention after it goes medium-heavy-64-bit-only like all the other ones.
    Long ago Lubuntu's target was computers that are 12 years or newer. It is still the target, but now it means computers from 2008 and newer. Most of these computers can run 64-bit operating systems, but there are exceptions, for example netbooks with Intel Atom processors.

    It is a major problem, that Ubuntu will not maintain the basic 32-bit architecture, and that several application programs have also abandoned 32-bit.

    So I think it was a good decision by Lubuntu to adapt to the current situation within the Ubuntu community.

    -o-

    There are several other linux distros, that still make 32-bit operating systems with light-weight application programs, that can work with computers that are more than 12 years old. I think we can still use this 'old-hardware'-megathread to help people keep old computers alive, including those that are less than 12 years old and those that are more than 12 years old.

    But at the same time I want to refer to the opening post, and remind of the limit when an old or weak computer is no longer useful for browsing the current bloated web sites.

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    Re: Old hardware brought back to life

    Steps to get a HP/Compaq 6910p running with Lubuntu 19.x


    The 6910p is hardware-wise a great machine, though not up to the latest „gaming“ specifications with respect to GPU performance.
    It has all necessary interfaces from birth, plus even more when you have the Port Replacement Unit, aka „docking station“. The only limiting factor is the display, which is 1280 x 800.

    It was born with Windows Vista, and often downgraded to Win XP, neither of which are viable today.

    Fortunately, it is fully supported by Ubuntu Linux and installation is much easier than with any Win flavour.

    For Ubuntu, I recommend an upgrade to 4 GB RAM, for Lubuntu 2 GB is sufficient.


    Preparation

    Boot into the BIOS using F10 and go to the „System Configuration“ menu. Select „Boot Options“:

    • CD-ROM Boot – Enable
    • MultiBoot – Enable
      • USB CD-ROM - First


    Save, exit and boot.
    Open the DVD drive and leave it open.
    Power down.


    Installing

    Insert your DVD containing a Ubuntu 19.xx .iso image into the DVD drive and power up the 6910p. This should start the installation process automatically.
    Tip: in my experience you might have to repeat this a couple of times. Apparently remnants of an older Win bootloader plays up.

    During installation, select keyboard layout (a no-brainer) and language. I recommend selecting US-English to begin with, you can change it later.
    Concerning disk partitioning, put on your thinking hat. I strongly recommend creating a swap-partition that is equal to or slghtly larger than the size of your RAM. Other partitioning is up to you.

    Installation can easily take an hour or more. Don‘t be impatient.


    Errors during Installation

    You will experience repeated errors during installation and reboot that refer to „tpm_module“, „flip_done timed out“ etc. Ignore it, this will be dealt with afterwards.


    Getting Rid of the Errors

    As soon as you have a stable boot after the installation (this takes a couple of attempts, where the annoying error mentioned above keeps reappearing), edit (as root) /etc/default/grub and
    change:
    GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash“
    to:
    GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash video=SVIDEO-1:d“
    Save.

    From a terminal then run:
    sudo update grub

    Reboot.

    The 6910p will now boot (original HDD: ~100 s, SSD: ~25 s) with no errors. Further installations and customizations are up to you. Enjoy your reborn 6910p.
    Last edited by ml9104; February 21st, 2020 at 09:39 PM.

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    Re: Old hardware brought back to life

    Thanks for the advice.

    A small comment: Swap partition is only necessary if one decides to use hibernation. If not then it's fine just to let Lubuntu take care of all partitioning.
    Bringing old hardware back to life. About problems due to upgrading.
    Please visit Quick Links -> Unanswered Posts.
    Don't use this space for a list of your hardware. It only creates false hits in the search engines.

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    Re: Old hardware brought back to life

    Quote Originally Posted by mrgs View Post
    Thanks for the advice.

    A small comment: Swap partition is only necessary if one decides to use hibernation. If not then it's fine just to let Lubuntu take care of all partitioning.
    Agreed. But with storage so cheap nowadays, why not plan for the future? And having hibernate is really wonderful on a laptop

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    Re: Old hardware brought back to life

    The original post has been updated with info for Lubuntu 20.04. Summing up:

    All my 20.04 installs have worked without errors. This was expected as 20.04 is only a minor step away from 19.10 which is also a great release.

    The only modifications I had to do after a vanilla install was setting the privacy level in Firefox and running sudo apt remove snapd. Besides this it was plug and play.

    Muon seems like a good replacement for Synaptic. A nice detail is that one can take a look at the packages available without the sudo password; this is only necessary when installing.

    If anybody has advice for other users they are as always welcome to post.
    Bringing old hardware back to life. About problems due to upgrading.
    Please visit Quick Links -> Unanswered Posts.
    Don't use this space for a list of your hardware. It only creates false hits in the search engines.

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    Re: Old hardware brought back to life

    I can confirm that the 20.04 LTS versions of Lubuntu and Xubuntu work well for me.

    Please notice that there is a Xubuntu Core iso file, that is maintained privately by a member of the Xubuntu team. This is the smallest Ubuntu family iso file with a graphical desktop environment.



    - There is no longer a 'lubuntu-core' meta package (for 20.04), but not installing the Recommends of 'lubuntu-desktop' has a similar effect.

    - There is still a 'xubuntu-core' meta package (for those who do not want to download an unofficial iso file).

    So in a simple text based system (installed from the Ubuntu mini.iso or an Ubuntu Server iso file) we can run

    Code:
    sudo apt update
    
    sudo apt install xubuntu-core                             #  to get Xubuntu Core
    # or
    sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop                          #  to get Xubuntu
    # or
    sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop                          #  to get Lubuntu
    # or
    sudo apt install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop  #  to get 'Lubuntu Core'
    and get the desktop flavours with a light footprint based on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS.
    Last edited by sudodus; 4 Weeks Ago at 06:31 PM. Reason: learned about a method to get 'Lubuntu Core'

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    Re: Old hardware brought back to life

    Thanks for the input.
    Do you know if the mini.iso is being deprecated?
    Bringing old hardware back to life. About problems due to upgrading.
    Please visit Quick Links -> Unanswered Posts.
    Don't use this space for a list of your hardware. It only creates false hits in the search engines.

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    Re: Old hardware brought back to life

    I tested the Ubuntu 20.04 LTS mini.iso and it worked for me (but as usual only in BIOS mode, in UEFI mode you need an Ubuntu Server iso file for the same purpose).

    Edit: The released version is '614' found at

    archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal/main/installer-amd64/20101020ubuntu614/legacy-images

    We may prefer the current version at

    archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal/main/installer-amd64/current/legacy-images

    But yes, it is deprecated in the context that Canonical is steering away from it (and hiding it).

    The md5sum is in the parent directory.
    Last edited by sudodus; 4 Weeks Ago at 10:47 PM.

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