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    Non-LTS: 9 Months Support

    Distrowatch has an article about non-LTS support going to 9 months from 18 months currently starting with 13.04. If you want to read what Ubuntu says about this change, click here.
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    Re: Non-LTS: 9 Months Support

    good choice imo, what they need to do now is link more to the lts version on the homepage

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    Re: Non-LTS: 9 Months Support

    Quote Originally Posted by Primefalcon View Post
    good choice imo, what they need to do now is link more to the lts version on the homepage
    +1 everyone except testers and those with new hardware needing bleeding edge should use LTS.

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    Re: Non-LTS: 9 Months Support

    everyone except testers and those with new hardware needing bleeding edge should use LTS.
    Or maybe they just want to have up to date applications?

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    Re: Non-LTS: 9 Months Support

    mr john From 13.04 onwards, Ubuntu will be a perpetual beta and may never become truly stable. Canonical will insist on the LTS as well as most Software Companies will develop for the LTS instead of the interm releases. You may now see new software for the LTS over the interm now. Only when the next LTS comes out will companies switch to that for full support.
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    Re: Non-LTS: 9 Months Support

    Actually, it's the development (as of 13.04) that will be more like the "perpetual beta" with no need to upgrade to the next development version (ex: 13.10. 14.04, and so forth) it will automatically point to the next version....
    so those (like myself) who want the latest software and other ubuntu changes, can use that as the "rolling ubuntu" (though they are not going to call it rolling...lol)...

    6 month versions will be just like they are now (go final/stable on release date) with 9 months (instead of 18 months) of support...Though i think the reason for this is that they want to be able to focus more on making upgrades from one version to another, more smooth, stable and reliable...and even allow one to jump from say, ubuntu 12.04 to ubuntu 13.10...

    LTS stays as it was before...2 year release schedule with long term support...
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    Re: Non-LTS: 9 Months Support

    I think Shuttleworth makes it clear now LTS is aimed at users, interim releases are aimed at testers:

    “Our working assumption is that the latest interim release is used by folks who will be involved, even if tangentially, in the making of Ubuntu, and LTS releases will be used by those who purely consume it,” Shuttleworth explained.
    http://www.pcworld.com/article/2031955/ ... -near.html

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    Re: Non-LTS: 9 Months Support

    Quote Originally Posted by KBD47 View Post
    I think Shuttleworth makes it clear now LTS is aimed at users, interim releases are aimed at testers:
    Great! So early next year, people will be getting nice and frustrated trying to install 12.04 on hardware that hasn't even been invented yet. They'll start complaining that "Ubuntu doesn't support my wifi, graphics card or 3G dongle; how can anyone use this crap" and go storming back to Windows. Or worse - Ubuntu 12.04 won't even be able to boot on such a new computer.

    Canonical needs to release new LTS images with the latest kernel, every six months otherwise the above will happen.

    I didn't really see a problem with the previous model of "LTS is for businesses, interim releases are for users" and decreasing the support window to 9 months.
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    Re: Non-LTS: 9 Months Support

    It's already handled like this - LTS Hardware Enablement Stack (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePango...ablement_Stack) 12.04.2 which got released with kernel 3.5.XX (12.04.1 come with with 3.2.XX) and next LTS (12.04.3) will come with a 3.8.XX kernel and if there are requests for newer hardware drivers they can get backported and rolled out. So for most users there should not be a problem to stick with Ubuntu's LTS release.
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    Re: Non-LTS: 9 Months Support

    Quote Originally Posted by 3rdalbum View Post
    Great! So early next year, people will be getting nice and frustrated trying to install 12.04 on hardware that hasn't even been invented yet. They'll start complaining that "Ubuntu doesn't support my wifi, graphics card or 3G dongle; how can anyone use this crap" and go storming back to Windows. Or worse - Ubuntu 12.04 won't even be able to boot on such a new computer.

    Canonical needs to release new LTS images with the latest kernel, every six months otherwise the above will happen.

    I didn't really see a problem with the previous model of "LTS is for businesses, interim releases are for users" and decreasing the support window to 9 months.
    Canonical already offers opt-in periodic updates to the LTS kernel, they are called "hardware enablement updates" 12.04 already has the quantal kernel and video drivers available in the repos. the raring kernel should be available eventually too.
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