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    Canonical and China

    Just saw this on the BBC -

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21895723

    China is working with software firm Canonical on an open-source operating system customised for Chinese users.

    The collaboration will produce a version of Canonical's Ubuntu operating system called Kylin which will be released in April.
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    I hope this becomes a trend!
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    Re: Canonical and China

    Kylin has been around for a while, but the shift to an Ubuntu base is new. Pretty humungous client for Canonical though, I'll bet there were some high fives after closing that one.

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    Re: Canonical and China

    Anyone want to test the daily ISO image for UbuntuKlylin Raring Ringtail? You will find it here

    http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/m...0313/testcases

    Release 13.04 beta notes

    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuKylin/...-1-ReleaseNote

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    Re: Canonical and China

    What do you mean by "stealing" in the context of free software?
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    Re: Canonical and China

    Quote Originally Posted by diesch View Post
    What do you mean by "stealing" in the context of free software?
    If they don't make it available downstream.

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    Re: Canonical and China

    Quote Originally Posted by llanitedave View Post
    If they don't make it available downstream.
    Most free software licenses do not require this.

    Violating the GPL doesn't seem to be specific to China. In the past several companies from Europe, the USA, Japan, Korea, ... did that, too. I tend to think that the USA with its patent law and crypto export restrictions is much more a problem for free software.
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    Re: Canonical and China

    Quote Originally Posted by diesch View Post
    Originally Posted by llanitedave
    If they don't make it available downstream.
    Most free software licenses do not require this.

    Violating the GPL doesn't seem to be specific to China. In the past several companies from Europe, the USA, Japan, Korea, ... did that, too. I tend to think that the USA with its patent law and crypto export restrictions is much more a problem for free software.
    The Linux kernel uses the GPL, and so do many of the included apps, so making changes available downstream DOES apply. If they don't do this, then the term "stealing" is certainly applicable.

    I'm not saying they will, although as you point out China has not proven themselves averse to such behavior in the past. And just because they aren't alone in violating GPL doesn't make it acceptable. Companies in Europe and the U.S. who have done that in the past have been brought to court -- and lost.

    Working out a deal with Canonical will not exempt them from observing the GPL for the kernel or any other part of the software stack that uses it.

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    Re: Canonical and China

    I think you mean upstream.
    You and I as end users are downstream.
    Where ever the source is at is upstream.
    But in a sense, you right, because changes that go in one direction, per the GPL, have to be at least be reported in the other direction.
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    Re: Canonical and China

    Quote Originally Posted by llanitedave View Post
    If they don't make it available downstream.
    From questionable recollection the majority of GPL violations I recall have been from countries that enforce copyright & patent law. There have been many GPL violations by companies from the USA for example, Microsoft, Cisco etc.

    But I suppose we still need a big bad bogey man, we're good guys and the others are bad...

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