But honestly, Ubuntu is "cheap" in making milestones, there is no tendency to try that. And that is main problem and reason of long standing bugs. It would be better (I think) set a milestone and I have at least feeling "somebody is working on that", and it will not be so disappointed if time will run out and milestone will be moved e.g. + 2 months. Now I have feeling that nobody cares and that is much worse.
But this makes me ask: What is really developed by Cannonical? Unity... and what? I cannot guess... I know there is lot of work with maintaining packages, but even if 5 people are working on Unity, progress for 6 months is really poor.
And this are basically reasons why I'm afraid of rolling release. This could be even worse, and as jerrylamos says, Cannonical seems more targeted to mobile platform now.
Last edited by Budovi; March 4th, 2013 at 06:32 PM.
Budovi...i doubt if it will be worse with a rolling release...if anything, it should be better because without a specific timetable, they will have more time to make sure things go smoothly...
deadlines means things get skipped over because specific goals have to be met by certain dates...and that's eliminated with rolling release, freeing them to give better attention to quality control...
I've had less hassles with 13.04 testing then i had either with 12.04 or 12.10 final installed...though i wish that bug in the touchpad settings (where it keeps reverting back to the default if you change the setting) would get fixed...that's a pretty obvious one, and i am surprised it hasn't been caught by them yet (and it seems like i am the only one that filed a bug report on it!)...
But other then that, i am very hopeful they will make 13.04 Raring Ringtail the Rolling Release
I'm not so afraid of rolling release as I am for the hell-bent rush to all things mobile, touch, and gadgety. Canonical is not a huge corporation, and when they embarked on the Unity adventure, I already was worried about them spreading themselves too thin. I really worry about the mobile push...
I can see that deadlines are working very well, at least for me . Actually, it is about setting up reasonable milestone as I said, but I can't see anything like that in Ubuntu development.
Good point that it could be better (for sure), but maybe it cannot be worse so nothing to loose.
I totally agree... you summed up that well...
Exactly...couldn't be worse then now but could be better...i will go as far to say, probably would be better...
Two pertinent quotes from the proposal:
Daily Quality means that developers can ensure their components are stable and useful before they upload, and our processes protect us from most mistakes these days. The result is that 13.04 has been as robust a release over the last many weeks as 12.10 was when we delivered. We have achieved rolling release quality in our development practices, so we can capitalize on this capability now.
For users who prefer more up to date software, the rolling release will truly provide the latest and greatest software that they are looking for, but without the 6 month wait for a new release. Developers won’t be under pressure to rush a feature in before the release deadline,so users will be receiving more complete software when they do get updates.
Last edited by craig10x; March 4th, 2013 at 07:30 PM.
Ignota nulla curatio morbi.
Yes and looking at this specs and deadlines it looks like development cycle is already changed/defined differently. Interesting.
I basically wont judge but will wait and see. If it will suit my needs great if not i don't know yet what to do. I will decide then.
It is really big and ambitious path but i never underestimated Canonical. Qt is solid toolkit, probably the best ATM, GTK+ 3 apps is said will still be supported, vendors with graphic drivers will have to support Mir and probably Canonical will not give them much reasons not to.
It could work but the competition will be hard for sure and that is a good thing. If Compiz has to be sacrificed at least make it in a way it works where X.org falls short now and about the desktop at least have some mode that offers desktop full of icons because i don't need another GnomeShell and some people try to reason with me having icons on the desktop is BAD thing, it's not.