Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 11

Thread: The eternal struggle - ubuntu and adobe flash

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Victoria, BC CA
    Beans
    21
    Distro
    Xubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx

    The eternal struggle - ubuntu and adobe flash

    I cannot remember how many times I had problems with flash player in different versions of Ubuntu, but before coming to 12.10 I was able to resolve them somehow. But now I am really stuck.

    Here is the scenery: freshly installed Xubuntu 12.10 with all updates, the latest versions of Chrome and Firefox and flashplugin reinstalled several times. As you can guess in both browsers the page at http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ shows nothing good, namely "... a plugin is needed to display this content". In Firefox the Add-ons Manager page proudly shows Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202; libflashplayer.so has been also updated from the Adobe site several times.

    The only leads are messages in the apport.log similar to the following:

    ERROR: apport (pid 22216) Wed Jan 23 23:41:08 2013: called for pid 22214, signal 4, core limit 0
    ERROR: apport (pid 22216) Wed Jan 23 23:41:08 2013: executable: /usr/lib/firefox/plugin-container (command line "/usr/lib/firefox/plugin-container /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so -greomni /usr/lib/firefox/omni.ja 22141 true plugin")
    ERROR: apport (pid 22216) Wed Jan 23 23:41:08 2013: executable version is blacklisted, ignoring

    All attempts to launch Chrome with Pepper flash result in crashes at /sbin/init. For details see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1103844

    One additional piece of information: Ubuntu 10.04 running exactly on the same hardware has absolutely no problems with playing flash.

    Question: is there anything I can do in this situation besides posting one more bug report, which nobody will read?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Beans
    69

    Re: The eternal struggle - ubuntu and adobe flash

    To get flash working you first must install it through the firefox browser that comes included with Ubuntu. I got this working with Ubuntu 12.10.
    This bug is in the kernel itself, it goes clear back to 2010 and only Linus Torvalds himself can rectify it. He knows about it but has a hatred for flash, he is pushing for HTML 5 to be implemented on all web sites, but it will take time. Just like a Steve Jobs. So he does not fix it

    Anyway,

    Get this app here to get flash up. It will use a different flash player but it will work. Adobe flash will not work anymore as it has been discontinued for linux from Adobe. Other flash players for linux will work, like the "Shockwave" flash player that will be installed with the plugin below.

    Its called "flash aid" at this link here. It is a flash plug in that will remove conflicting errors and install flash for you on firefox. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/fir...don/flash-aid/

    After downloading that plug in, it will walk you through with a wizard after you install that plug in with firefox.

    After you get flash up and going with that app, it will work with other browsers you want to use. But it first has to be implemented on the firefox browser.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Help develop up in XDA for their android flagship device at this link here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=860
    Last edited by meteorrock; January 25th, 2013 at 10:36 AM.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Victoria, BC CA
    Beans
    21
    Distro
    Xubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx

    Re: The eternal struggle - ubuntu and adobe flash

    Thank you, so it is a kernel bug. That I was thinking as well, and thus it does not make sense to try another distros like Gentoo.

    I forgot to mention in my post that I had tried flash-aid already with no positive effect. Anyway I will try it again after purging flash plugins. If something good comes out I will write it down.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Finland/UK
    Beans
    Hidden!
    Distro
    Ubuntu 16.04 Xenial Xerus

    Re: The eternal struggle - ubuntu and adobe flash

    Actually the problem is that you are looking at the page for the Shockwave plugin, which is a completely different thing from Flash (AKA "Shockwave Flash").

    There is no Shockwave plugin for Linux, never has been and never will be as neither Adobe nor Macromedia before them has had any intentions to create one.

    The test page for the Flash plugin is here: http://www.adobe.com/products/about-flash.html

    And, by the way, I'm quite happily using the latest version of Flash plugin installed through Ubuntu's repositories at this very moment (on Ubuntu 12.04). So unlike what the above post suggest, it should work just fine and the problem is definitely something else than "Linus Torvalds not supporting it in the kernel"
    Last edited by mcduck; January 25th, 2013 at 08:23 PM.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Beans
    69

    Re: The eternal struggle - ubuntu and adobe flash

    Quote Originally Posted by mcduck View Post
    Actually the problem is that you are looking at the page for the Shockwave plugin, which is a completely different thing from Flash (AKA "Shockwave Flash").

    There is no Shockwave plugin for Linux, never has been and never will be as neither Adobe nor Macromedia before them has had any intentions to create one.

    The test page for the Flash plugin is here: http://www.adobe.com/products/about-flash.html

    And, by the way, I'm quite happily using the latest version of Flash plugin installed through Ubuntu's repositories at this very moment (on Ubuntu 12.04). So unlike what the above post suggest, it should work just fine and the problem is definitely something else than "Linus Torvalds not supporting it in the kernel"
    If you say so. Kernel or framework bug , its been around forever.

    If its a bug in the framework, fix it then. Go summit that github patch. Two whole years? Comon. You "JUST" have everyone doing these little "kiddie script" GUI hacks for flash on all of the Linux distos. Yes, I checked.

    So what flash does flash-aid use? Its not from adobe.

    Here is a thread for putting shockwave flash on linux. Try google next time. http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/f...in-for-Mozilla
    Last edited by meteorrock; January 26th, 2013 at 03:38 AM.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Calhoun, GA USA
    Beans
    166
    Distro
    Xubuntu

    Re: The eternal struggle - ubuntu and adobe flash

    Quote Originally Posted by meteorrock View Post
    If you say so. Kernel or framework bug , its been around forever.

    If its a bug in the framework, fix it then. Go summit that github patch. Two whole years? Comon. You "JUST" have everyone doing these little "kiddie script" GUI hacks for flash on all of the Linux distos. Yes, I checked.

    So what flash does flash-aid use? Its not from adobe.
    You're trolling, right?

    The OP was linking to a page for Adobe Shockwave while asking about Adobe Flash. There's never been a package of Shockwave for Linux. Whither he's linked to that page erroniously or not, we don't know yet.

    If the OP wants Shockwave, there's an Ubuntu Community Guide for installing Firefox in Wine and using the Windows Flash and Shockwave versions.

    As for Chrome PPAPI Flash, I've had no issues running Google-Chrome Stable Version 24.0.1312.52. It's a nice fallback for flash on sites like Blip.tv or Springboard that like to crash the NNAPI flash player.
    And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean, all you get is one trick: "rational thinking."
    But, when you're good and crazy? Oooh! Oooh! Oooh! The sky is the limit!

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Beans
    69

    Re: The eternal struggle - ubuntu and adobe flash

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam_GUI View Post
    You're trolling, right?

    The OP was linking to a page for Adobe Shockwave while asking about Adobe Flash. There's never been a package of Shockwave for Linux. Whither he's linked to that page erroniously or not, we don't know yet.

    If the OP wants Shockwave, there's an Ubuntu Community Guide for installing Firefox in Wine and using the Windows Flash and Shockwave versions.

    As for Chrome PPAPI Flash, I've had no issues running Google-Chrome Stable Version 24.0.1312.52. It's a nice fallback for flash on sites like Blip.tv or Springboard that like to crash the NNAPI flash player.
    Huh? I am not trolling. The Opera browser has this issue tagged since 2010 through their Opera linux issue tracker. Did a two day long search on how to fix this issue and wanting to work on trying to submit a patch for it. Tickets everywhere and bug issues for it all through the google search on the github. What is this obsession you guys have for Adobe? Is there an open source solution? Does Adobe only make flash? Comon guys, stop trying to think so linear.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Anyho, I just assume if its a bug outside of the kernel it would of been fixed by now. Wouldn't it have been? People would not have let it slide that long if there was a simple fix or solution for it.

    I got 3 or more linux distros on the VMware hypervisor, they are all having issues with flash. The only solution I got working is using that flash-aid. Whether it uses an Adobe "shockwave" or another labeled flash player should be irreverent. As long as it works. But I guess that is just how I think. Anyway I am out of this thread. Good luck.

    Got a hack over in the linux mint forums for anyone wanting to help at this link here. http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=122822
    Last edited by meteorrock; January 26th, 2013 at 06:15 AM.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Calhoun, GA USA
    Beans
    166
    Distro
    Xubuntu

    Re: The eternal struggle - ubuntu and adobe flash

    Quote Originally Posted by meteorrock View Post
    Huh? I am not trolling. The Opera browser has this issue tagged since 2010 through their Opera linux issue tracker. Did a two day long search on how to fix this issue and wanting to work on trying to submit a patch for it. Tickets everywhere and bug issues for it all through the google search on the github. What is this obsession you guys have for Adobe? Is there an open source solution? Does Adobe only make flash? Comon guys, stop trying to think so linear.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Anyho, I just assume if its a bug outside of the kernel it would of been fixed by now. Wouldn't it have been? People would not have let it slide that long if there was a simple fix or solution for it.

    I got 3 or more linux distros on the VMware hypervisor, they are all having issues with flash. The only solution I got working is using that flash-aid. Whether it uses an Adobe "shockwave" or another labeled flash player should be irreverent. As long as it works. But I guess that is just how I think. Anyway I am out of this thread. Good luck.

    Got a hack over in the linux mint forums for anyone wanting to help at this link here. http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=122822
    Shockwave is not flash player. For someone so obsessed over bug reports, you sure don't like to read.
    And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean, all you get is one trick: "rational thinking."
    But, when you're good and crazy? Oooh! Oooh! Oooh! The sky is the limit!

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Beans
    69

    Re: The eternal struggle - ubuntu and adobe flash

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam_GUI View Post
    Shockwave is not flash player. For someone so obsessed over bug reports, you sure don't like to read.

    And you have been reported. Have fun. Nice way to get new members involved here, especially girls. Take that drama to facebook. If you guys actually debugged your builds here there would be no need for this anyway.

    Way to go guys Lets ostracize women and girls from NEVER using linux by making some stupid point. Like I said, I do not care. Get it working without having new linux users jump through hoops and using scripts.
    Last edited by meteorrock; January 28th, 2013 at 02:14 AM.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Funky Town, AUS
    Beans
    Hidden!
    Distro
    Xubuntu

    Re: The eternal struggle - ubuntu and adobe flash

    Thread closed for moderation.

    Apologies to the original poster.

    @ meteorrock & Adam_GUI: From the forum Code of Conduct, which you both agreed to when joining, FYI.

    1. Trolling, Attacks and Flaming: These are always forbidden.
      • Trolling is posting in a way that provokes emotional responses.
      • Attacks and derogatory terms of any kind are not welcome. This includes references to other operating systems and the companies that produce them.
      • Flames are messages that personally attack or call any people names or otherwise harass. These, along with any generally condescending posts will be edited or removed at the moderators discretion.
      • If a thread is flame-bait (appears to be intended to start an argument or is likely to cause an argument rather than enhance discussion, as in trolling), it will be locked or removed without notice. Individual flame-bait comments in a post may be deleted or edited at the moderators' discretion.
      • If the thread turns into an argument, it can be closed to further comment or removed without notice. Sometimes a moderator may split the thread or delete certain portions in order to keep the discussion going, but that is not always possible since we are a staff of volunteers with limited time and numbers.

    Last edited by Bucky Ball; January 28th, 2013 at 02:22 AM.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •