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    Re: General Question

    You've not been 100% clear about what you're trying to achieve. Do you want to set up:
    1. A server?
    2. A lightweight desktop?


    If you just want a desktop then there's no point installing the server edition. The server edition with desktop packages added isn't any more lightweight than the desktop edition running those same packages.

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    Re: General Question

    Continue testing and select what is best for you
    And we would be happy to share your experiences.

    Good luck

    Edit: And a comment to Bucky Ball's post: If you tell us more about what you want to do with the computer, it will be easier to help you.
    Last edited by sudodus; January 22nd, 2013 at 03:13 PM.

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    Re: General Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Paqman View Post
    You've not been 100% clear about what you're trying to achieve. Do you want to set up:
    1. A server?
    2. A lightweight desktop?


    If you just want a desktop then there's no point installing the server edition. The server edition with desktop packages added isn't any more lightweight than the desktop edition running those same packages.
    I like to get a server, small sized for home usage.
    But I have zero experience with linux systems, thus trying out desktop version.
    I need GUI as I am a complete blur with line prompts.

    Which is why I appear so fickle minded.


    EDIT,
    I'm too used to Windows, just connecting to the same Workgroup and I can treat it as a server.
    Thus I need to learn about Linux.
    Last edited by thehim; January 22nd, 2013 at 03:14 PM.

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    Re: General Question

    The command line is already installed on Xubuntu.

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    Re: General Question

    I think you will find that the Desktop and Server editions have different default programs/applications. Depending on what you mean by 'lightweight' you may find that the Server edition takes up more space on the hard disk than the desktop edition.

    The Server edition is lightweight in the sense that it does not come with a Graphical User Interface and so can be installed on hardware without needing a video adapter installed. They are then administered over the network.

    Those Server Edition programs can be installed on the Desktop Edition. So, if your interest is in studying Network Administration, then it is the server programs that should be studied.

    The issue of so-called lightweight verses so-called heavy weight GUIs only applies if the hardware you are experimenting with is of a low specification.

    You may find that some server applications can have a GUI installed for them. Others may only be administered through the terminal.

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    Re: General Question

    Quote Originally Posted by thehim View Post
    I like to get a server, small sized for home usage.
    But I have zero experience with linux systems, thus trying out desktop version.
    I need GUI as I am a complete blur with line prompts.
    Depending on what you want to do with the server you might find a pre-configured appliacance from something like Turnkey Linux might be suitable. You can get a ready made machine that is already set up for whatever task you want to do. For example, if you wanted a file server you could just download this image.

    However, a lot of home servers function as several different things (file server, web server, torrent server, print server, etc) so if that's the case starting with a generic Ubuntu server is fine.

    As for GUIs, you might want to look at something designed specifically for servers, such as Webmin. You install Webmin onto your server, and it can run headless. You control it through a browser interface on any other machine (any OS). Webmin is significantly lighter and less fuss than installing desktop packages onto your server and then remoting into it.

    You'll need to pick up some basic proficiency with the command line though, as most server packages are configured through text files. You'll need to be able to find and edit those files, and you'll need to understand and be able to change file permissions.

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    Re: General Question

    Quote Originally Posted by thehim View Post
    I like to get a server, small sized for home usage
    ...
    EDIT,
    I'm too used to Windows, just connecting to the same Workgroup and I can treat it as a server.
    Thus I need to learn about Linux.
    If I understand this edit sentence, you want a file server: to read and write files on this computer from other computers.

    If this is the case, it is easy to set it up as an ssh or samba server. This can be done easily with a desktop version of Ubuntu (Lubuntu or Xubuntu if you want light-weight desktop environments). And there will be a minimum of command line work, not zero, but less than starting with Ubuntu Server.

    You can also log in via the network from other computers and run programs in the server with ssh.

    But if you know that you want more than that, go ahead with Ubuntu Server. With some help from us at the Ubuntu Forums and some tutorials from the internet you will soon learn a lot of command line stuff.

    Edit: Or choose some specialised server distro suggested by Paqman. Look forward to an interesting journey. You can change direction and install something different after some time. You gain experience and the next installation will be much easier, when you know more about linux.
    Last edited by sudodus; January 23rd, 2013 at 01:44 AM.

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    Re: General Question

    I guess I'll go for what Paqman suggested, as I'd like this system to be a file server at first.

    Only after studying more into Linux, will I upgrade to Server editions, learn more commands and do more things with it.

    Thanks.

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    Re: General Question

    Sounds like you found your answer.

    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnansweredPo.../SolvedThreads

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    Re: General Question

    Quote Originally Posted by thehim View Post
    I guess I'll go for what Paqman suggested, as I'd like this system to be a file server at first.

    Only after studying more into Linux, will I upgrade to Server editions, learn more commands and do more things with it.

    Thanks.
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