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  1. #1
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    13.10 fails at itramfs

    It seems I was here not so long ago. I think I should buy a season ticket!

    I had to reinstall 13.10 a few weeks ago when a drive failed. Not nice but all went very well...for a while. I have just installed an IDE card to add problem free USB ports (also noted here and thankful I was for the help. I needed the extra USBs in any case,) and now, or at least recently, the front USBs began to work just fine, lucky me, for a while.

    The card has been in for just about afive days and I noticed the system was getting ridiculously slow and ceased to allow me to close down correctly. It always asked if I wanted to log out, not to close.

    I was looking at the solutions to this and thereby spotted the advice to use Cairo dock as an interim solution. I really do not like Cairo very much. I am not one for docks, I suppose.

    In any case, I am now unable to log in as the entire suystem works right up to INITRAMFS.

    I have seen any number of solutions, every single one different and none seem to have any relation to any of the others. From past experience I am learning that to just run with one or a selection of these multiple solutions is often a mistake to be avoided. I am now trying to avoid such.

    I am asking for advice once again from the wisdom of this group since it seems to be the only place that actually gives me all good answers.

    Some system details:

    Ram - 8Gb ( actually it says 7.8)
    Processor - AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ × 2
    System - Ubuntu 13.10 64 bit
    And last of all is Disk from the system page list - which says 4.6Gb

    I am running a graphics card, an Nvidia but far from the latest, mostly it was the cheapest decent one available about a year ago

    From what I have seen,, there seems to be very little to do with the hardware or the installed software, although I have ot yet removed my bad drive. I still live in hopes that some miracle will allow me to revive it and to see what nuggets I have there. I am nothing if not optimistic!

    Cheers

    Frank Sirett

    P S It might help if you knew that Firefox stopped remebering my tabs and windows on relaunch and that Xmarks made a habit of re-initiating every time I turned on Firefox. I thought these were Firefox problems- maybe they are, but might be of some help

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    Last edited by Fsirett; April 6th, 2014 at 09:48 PM. Reason: Some added information that might help

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    Re: 13.10 fails at itramfs

    Having looked a little more at googled posts, I see there are two or three things asked for that might help, so I will add them here in case they help

    First my blkid results:

    Code:
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo blkid
    /dev/loop0: TYPE="squashfs" 
    /dev/sda1: LABEL="Two" UUID="0ec35494-167d-46d0-afcc-7b205a5f0cc4" TYPE="ext4" 
    /dev/sda2: LABEL="One" UUID="f1aecdae-35ab-49c9-a344-a2451b44bd53" TYPE="ext4" 
    /dev/sdf1: UUID="99392b90-8c06-4b5b-9dd4-b4d76b76d574" TYPE="ext4" 
    /dev/sdf2: LABEL="Three" UUID="f87cdbe9-32fa-4366-a94a-945934063353" TYPE="ext4" 
    /dev/sdf3: UUID="e0caa566-a44b-4ee7-8642-211f6a3cc496" TYPE="swap" 
    /dev/sdg1: UUID="bd4829cb-e3b0-4915-ba94-fc0df321ebf2" TYPE="swap" 
    /dev/sdg3: UUID="b8bde559-5e8b-4e8a-ba5f-1e4991c3cc55" TYPE="swap" 
    /dev/sdg5: UUID="b011adde-afe6-4a5c-b20e-9e8d78ae892a" TYPE="ext4" 
    /dev/sdg6: UUID="1ac2898e-e860-410e-b812-d64ac95688eb" TYPE="swap" 
    /dev/sdg7: LABEL="System" UUID="36d0136e-ad7f-46de-be7d-df15a19e1bd9" TYPE="ext4" 
    /dev/sdh1: LABEL="200" UUID="fbaf7581-bbbe-47e6-8d3f-7f297484d684" TYPE="ext4" 
    /dev/sdh5: UUID="2c9bc47c-925d-4123-b518-93580a5a1eba" TYPE="swap" 
    /dev/sr0: LABEL="Ubuntu 13.10 amd64" TYPE="iso9660" 
    /dev/sdi: LABEL="SPC 824X" UUID="D84B-71A3" TYPE="vfat" 
    /dev/sdj1: UUID="4433-2211" TYPE="vfat" 
    /dev/sdk1: LABEL="My Passport" UUID="B4D48115D480DB4E" TYPE="ntfs"
    There are three external devices connected, if that is causing any confusion. Labels "One" "Two" and "Three" are data disks and the operating system is on the second partition that shares the drive with "Three." Aside from that, I have no idea what else I can tell you.

    And now the parted -l results

    Code:
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo parted -l
    Model: ATA WDC WD10EARS-00Y (scsi)
    Disk /dev/sda: 1000GB
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
    Partition Table: msdos
    
    Number  Start   End     Size   Type     File system  Flags
     2      1904MB  476GB   474GB  primary  ext4         boot
     1      476GB   1000GB  524GB  primary  ext4
    
    
    Model: ATA WDC WD10EFRX-68J (scsi)
    Disk /dev/sdf: 1000GB
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
    Partition Table: msdos
    
    Number  Start   End     Size    Type     File system     Flags
     2      1049kB  472GB   472GB   primary  ext4
     1      472GB   996GB   524GB   primary  ext4            boot
     3      996GB   1000GB  4193MB  primary  linux-swap(v1)
    
    
    Model: ATA ST3500320AS (scsi)
    Disk /dev/sdg: 500GB
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
    Partition Table: msdos
    
    Number  Start   End     Size    Type      File system     Flags
     1      1049kB  52.7GB  52.7GB  primary   linux-swap(v1)
     2      142GB   500GB   358GB   extended
     7      142GB   490GB   348GB   logical   ext4
     5      490GB   492GB   1347MB  logical   ext4
     6      492GB   500GB   8588MB  logical   linux-swap(v1)
     3      500GB   500GB   1049kB  primary   linux-swap(v1)
    
    
    Model: ATA ST3250310AS (scsi)
    Disk /dev/sdh: 250GB
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
    Partition Table: msdos
    
    Number  Start   End    Size    Type      File system     Flags
     1      1049kB  241GB  241GB   primary   ext4            boot
     2      241GB   250GB  8588MB  extended
     5      241GB   250GB  8588MB  logical   linux-swap(v1)
    
    
    Error: /dev/sdi: unrecognised disk label                                  
    
    Model: JIE LI CD002-1 (scsi)
    Disk /dev/sdj: 3876MB
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
    Partition Table: msdos
    
    Number  Start   End     Size    Type     File system  Flags
     1      4194kB  3876MB  3871MB  primary  fat32
    
    
    Model: WD Elements 10A2 (scsi)
    Disk /dev/sdk: 500GB
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
    Partition Table: msdos
    
    Number  Start   End    Size   Type     File system  Flags
     1      1049kB  500GB  500GB  primary  ntfs         boot
    
    
    Warning: Unable to open /dev/sr0 read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/sr0
    has been opened read-only.
    Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!
    This reading has my two known good drives, the WDC drives. One is data and the other is half OS and half data. the STdrives are suspicious, one is definitely bad and the other needs looking at, according to my bios boot screen. i have to replace them both, or more likely install one new one. Both are quite old.

    The WD Elements is an external as are the others.

    I am rather surprised to see all of the "boot" flags. I always thought there should only be one per system, but that is nothing I yet know about.

    I am continuing to look to see if there is anything else I might post to expedite the situation.

    Cheers

    Frank Sirett

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    Re: 13.10 fails at itramfs

    maybe this might help as well? The fdisk results:

    Code:
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l 
    
    Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders, total 1953525168 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x000a5d56
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sda1       929878016  1953523711   511822848   83  Linux
    /dev/sda2   *     3719168   929878015   463079424   83  Linux
    
    Partition table entries are not in disk order
    
    Disk /dev/sdf: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders, total 1953525168 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x0000bb53
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sdf1   *   922064896  1945333759   511634432   83  Linux
    /dev/sdf2            2048   922064895   461031424   83  Linux
    /dev/sdf3      1945333760  1953523711     4094976   82  Linux swap / Solaris
    
    Partition table entries are not in disk order
    
    Disk /dev/sdg: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x00084724
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sdg1            2048   103000063    51499008   82  Linux swap / Solaris
    /dev/sdg2       276881406   976771071   349944833    5  Extended
    /dev/sdg3       976771072   976773119        1024   82  Linux swap / Solaris
    /dev/sdg5       957364224   959995903     1315840   83  Linux
    /dev/sdg6       959997952   976771071     8386560   82  Linux swap / Solaris
    /dev/sdg7       276881408   957362175   340240384   83  Linux
    
    Partition table entries are not in disk order
    
    Disk /dev/sdh: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, total 488397168 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x0008b2e1
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sdh1   *        2048   470679551   235338752   83  Linux
    /dev/sdh2       471623678   488396799     8386561    5  Extended
    /dev/sdh5       471623680   488396799     8386560   82  Linux swap / Solaris
    Note: sector size is 1024 (not 512)
    
    Disk /dev/sdi: 3986 MB, 3986546688 bytes
    123 heads, 62 sectors/track, 510 cylinders, total 3893112 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 1024 = 1024 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 1024 bytes / 1024 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 1024 bytes / 1024 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x6f20736b
    
    This doesn't look like a partition table
    Probably you selected the wrong device.
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sdi1   ?   778135908  1919645538  1141509631   72  Unknown
    /dev/sdi2   ?   168689522  2104717761  1936028240   65  Novell Netware 386
    /dev/sdi3   ?  1869881465  3805909656  1936028192   79  Unknown
    /dev/sdi4   ?  2885681152  2885736650       55499    d  Unknown
    
    Partition table entries are not in disk order
    
    Disk /dev/sdj: 3875 MB, 3875536896 bytes
    86 heads, 21 sectors/track, 4191 cylinders, total 7569408 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x00000000
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sdj1            8192     7569407     3780608    b  W95 FAT32
    
    Disk /dev/sdk: 500.1 GB, 500074283008 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60797 cylinders, total 976707584 sectors
    Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x0004a183
    
       Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
    /dev/sdk1   *        2048   976707583   488352768    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
    I have also found this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1682038 but, once again, I would rather not step into the abyss without a little guidance, please

    Cheers

    Frank Sirett
    Last edited by Fsirett; April 7th, 2014 at 09:23 AM.

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    Re: 13.10 fails at itramfs

    Let's see if I can get this one off correctly this time!

    The problem is solved...sort of. Maybe some other poor sod who has this problem can profit from my story and I think I owe it in any case.

    It appears the original initramfs is a problem that might stem from a bug in the latest flavour of 13.10. Since 14.04 is out in a day or two I am not worried about that now. I am running and can stand the funny things going on knowing they might disappear with the upgrade.

    First of all, a hardware chap told me that the drive fails might easily have been caused by some micro blackouts we have been having here. they are much less than a second in length, but he said that is enough to screw everything up. He said a surge suppressor is not enough. I was advised to get an uniterruptable power supply to save time,and money. I did. Wise investment for an unwise user.

    When trying to rebuild my old system, I used a boot repair disk that did nothing, but it did give me access to my newly dead disk files. At least the /home folder that was living there remote from the operating system. Thinking about it, I might have put a /home folder into the OS and had it running again, but I was more interested in the reasons for the error and avoiding it in the future.

    In any case, I copied the file and then went about reinstalling 13.10 and pointing the OS at a new location for my /home folder. Everything seems to work as before. The 13.10 bugs still plague me, but, as I say, with the new release around the corner I can live with that.

    The real help I might offer is that of lessons learned when another person movved their /home folder using the excellent instructions found at: http://www.maketecheasier.com/move-home-folder-ubuntu/

    I advised this be used and was consulted when problems arose. I am surprised I had none of these problems. Just dumb luck , I suppose.

    First, when you make your new partition, do not label it. we found it does not like a label. Do not ask me why, I thought we migh be able to work around it but before I ruined everything we removed the label and found that was all we needed for that.

    Next, when you move the files, if, like me, you are not all that confident that you are using rsync correctly, try the excellent Grsync. It is easy and did the job twice for me and once for another.

    Last of all. On your second trip to the fstab file, do not forget to use "ctrl o" again. He does not tell you that in the instructions, but if you do not save, it will not work. I missed this error by pure chance but I did not notice it on the other system and it caused great confusion.

    Last of all, because of my experience, I suggest you back up your /home folder in at least two different locations. I am now! Who on Earth would have thought that luck ould destroy the drive I had put the /home folder on? As I say, the fickle finger of fate is merciless and strikes without warning. The inquisition that follows is none too pleasant either, I assure you.

    Cheers to all

    Frank Sirett

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