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    XP internet access problem with dual boot setup

    Hi All from a Ubuntu noob,

    I recently resurrected a Dell Dimension 5000 desktop so that I could dual boot Windows XP and Ubuntu. The system has two 2 seperate SATA hard drives, 1 x300Gb for XP Pro(SP3) and 1 x 80 Gb for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.

    I installed the XP first on hda (300Gb) with the 80Gb drive disconnected. Then fully updated that installation and added a few goodies. This installation worked fine along with Internet access through IE and Firefox. The installation was used for week or so before the next stage.

    I then swapped the XP installed disk to hdb and connected the 80Gb disk to hda and installed Ubuntu12.04 LTS. This installation worked fine along with Internet access through Firefox.

    The dual boot setup appears to work OK and I can boot into either OS at startup through the Ubuntu Grub screen. Internet access through Firefox on the Ubuntu OS works OK but I have no Internet access when running the XP installation through either IE or Firefox, although I can successfully ping my ADSL router using 192.169.1.254 (BTHomeHub 2b) from a command prompt.

    I've searched through the forum but so far I have not come up with a solution, least ways not one that I recognise/understand.

    Any help will be much appreciated, though please bear in mind I'm a Linux/Ubuntu green horn and my networking skills are not that great either.

    Many thanks.

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    Re: XP internet access problem with dual boot setup

    Welcome to the forums.

    Did you switch XP back to sda? I am surprised it would work if you did not but Ubuntu/grub does some mapping of drives to make Windows think it still is sda even when sdb. But none of that should be an Internet issue.

    If you totally power down and reboot directly into XP does it then work?

    I vaguely remember several years ago a similar issue and we all said they boot separately so their is no issue. It turned out Windows did not correctly re-initialize the modem as it always assumed you were rebooting from Windows. And the Linux driver totally reset it on shutdown. So it was a software issue. No idea what solution was.
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    Re: XP internet access problem with dual boot setup

    I can't quite understand why all the drive juggling. Regardless though, it shouldn't have any effect on the network.
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    Re: XP internet access problem with dual boot setup

    Quote Originally Posted by oldfred View Post
    I vaguely remember several years ago a similar issue and we all said they boot separately so their is no issue. It turned out Windows did not correctly re-initialize the modem as it always assumed you were rebooting from Windows. And the Linux driver totally reset it on shutdown. So it was a software issue. No idea what solution was.
    There definitely was a problem like that, I used to have it myself. Unfortunately, I can't recall the solution.

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    Re: XP internet access problem with dual boot setup

    Quote Originally Posted by oldfred View Post
    Welcome to the forums.

    Did you switch XP back to sda? I am surprised it would work if you did not but Ubuntu/grub does some mapping of drives to make Windows think it still is sda even when sdb. But none of that should be an Internet issue.

    If you totally power down and reboot directly into XP does it then work?
    Ubuntu 12.04 is Drive 0/SATA 0
    WinXP is Drive 1/SATA 1

    • Powered down overnight -> Rebooted PC with above arrangenment ->Ubuntu Grub boot option screen appears -> selected WinXP -> PC boots into XP OK -> Internet problem still exists.
    • Disconnected Drive 0/SATA 0 then booted -> BIOS displays error, Drive 0 not found press F1 etc etc -> PC booted into WinXP with no problem -> Internet problem still exists.


    Quote Originally Posted by carl4926 View Post
    I can't quite understand why all the drive juggling. Regardless though, it shouldn't have any effect on the network.
    I just followed instructions found on this forum. If you can point me to an alternative method I'd willing to give it a go. Reformatting and starting again is not a problem.

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    Re: XP internet access problem with dual boot setup

    The only reason to keep Windows XP as sda, is that it hard codes the drive & partition into the boot.ini file. And BIOS typically writes info on which is boot drive that systems have to read. So installing Windows into sdb and booting Ubuntu from sda often does not work. It usually depends on BIOS on perhaps some other issues. Of course none of that is related to Internet. I just did not think Windows would directly boot after power down.

    Boot from total powerdown into Windows should allow it to totally reset.

    Post this but edit out HWaddr

    sudo ifconfig

    and from Windows post ipconfig
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    Re: XP internet access problem with dual boot setup

    Reply removed because it was not complete when accidentally posted.
    Last edited by duffsparky; December 23rd, 2012 at 12:24 AM. Reason: Edited Address

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    Re: XP internet access problem with dual boot setup

    I was hoping you could copy & paste to a file & reboot or copy to another machine to see what settings are and compare to Ubuntu's settings.
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    Re: XP internet access problem with dual boot setup

    I was just editing my reply, which is now removed, (because I accidentally posted it before it was complete) and went to post it but my session had timed out so the reply was lost. How do I stop this from happening again. I don't have access to the forum CP
    Last edited by duffsparky; December 23rd, 2012 at 12:24 AM.

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    Re: XP internet access problem with dual boot setup

    I was already checking the win ipconfig/all results and comparing them with a good WinXP machine. Below are the results for both machines.

    I also carried out ping commnd from both machines to the other. I tried to turn off the dual boot machine's XP firewall but immediately it was switch off the anti-virus (Sophos) flagged up a treat with the following message - 'Suspicious behaviour' HIPS/RegMod-008 has been detected and moved to quarantine. Access denied, and the firewall was back on again. The AV quarantine lists the threat in C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll.exe

    ---------------Results from WinXP/Ubuntu dual boot machine-----------

    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Documents and Settings\newadmin>ipconfig /all

    Windows IP Configuration

    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : dimension-5000
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : home

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : home
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : {edited}
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.65
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 22 December 2012 21:05:39
    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 23 December 2012 21:05:39

    C:\Documents and Settings\newadmin>ping 192.168.1.77

    Pinging 192.168.1.65 with 32 bytes of data:

    Reply from 192.168.1.77: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.1.77: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.1.77: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
    Reply from 192.168.1.77: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

    Ping statistics for 192.168.1.77:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 4 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milliseconds
    Minimum =0ms. Maximum - 0ms, Average = 0ms

    C:\Documents and Settings\newadmin>


    ---------------Results from good WinXP only machine--------------

    Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
    (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

    C:\Documents and Settings\newadmin>ipconfig /all

    Windows IP Configuration

    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : T645
    Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : home

    Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

    Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : home
    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 S Desktop Adapter
    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : {edited}
    Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
    Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.77
    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
    Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 22 December 2012 14:00:25
    Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 23 December 2012 14:00:25

    C:\Documents and Settings\newadmin>ping 192.168.1.65

    Pinging 192.168.1.65 with 32 bytes of data:

    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.
    Request timed out.

    Ping statistics for 192.168.1.65:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

    C:\Documents and Settings\newadmin>

    -----------------------Results of sudo ifconfig for dual boot machine---------

    glenn@Ubuntu-Dimension-5000:~$ sudo ifconfig
    [sudo] password for glenn:
    eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr (edited)
    inet addr:192.168.1.65 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
    inet6 addr: fe80::211:43ff:fe10:c076/64 Scope:Link
    UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
    RX packets:308 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
    TX packets:254 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
    collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
    RX bytes:35915 (35.9 KB) TX bytes:31440 (31.4 KB)
    Interrupt:19

    lo Link encap:Local Loopback
    inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
    inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
    UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
    RX packets:341 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
    TX packets:341 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
    collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
    RX bytes:23846 (23.8 KB) TX bytes:23846 (23.8 KB)

    glenn@Ubuntu-Dimension-5000:~$

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