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    Re: new user passwords are now 'judged'

    It's my machine and I'll do what I like!
    True. But is it your operating system? You did accept the End User Licence when you installed, did you not? Oh, it has not yet come to that.


    With all the fuss about privacy and the shopping lens, I would not be surprised to one day see some kind of notice to the effect that by using Ubuntu I have accepted certain conditions of use.

    By searching in the dash you consent to:

    the collection and use of your search terms and IP address in this way; and the storage of your search terms and IP address by Canonical and such selected third parties (if applicable).
    A small part of such a licence is already in place.

    Regards.
    It is a machine. It is more stupid than we are. It will not stop us from doing stupid things.
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    Re: new user passwords are now 'judged'

    Quote Originally Posted by buzzmandt View Post
    no one else uses my computers, why do i need to 'fort knox' them?
    To keep it that way.

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    Re: new user passwords are now 'judged'

    Quote Originally Posted by grahammechanical View Post
    True. But is it your operating system? You did accept the End User Licence when you installed, did you not? Oh, it has not yet come to that.


    With all the fuss about privacy and the shopping lens, I would not be surprised to one day see some kind of notice to the effect that by using Ubuntu I have accepted certain conditions of use.



    A small part of such a licence is already in place.

    Regards.
    Erm......I'm using Linux Mint and not searching with the dash

    Bouncingwilf

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    Re: new user passwords are now 'judged'

    I think that with the various lenses being able to connect to the outside world a strong password is a good idea. Ubuntu is gaining in popularity and that will put a big target on it for hackers and malware. I am from an IT background and always use a strong password so none of this really bothers me. Better safe than sorry.

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    Re: new user passwords are now 'judged'

    Theoretically... If program creates lot of rules for passwords for example that you cant use keys next to each other doesnt that make password cracking easyer as lot of the possibilites simply arent possible. Ofcourse it doesnt matter if password is long enough but...

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    Re: new user passwords are now 'judged'

    Quote Originally Posted by Yeeha View Post
    Theoretically... If program creates lot of rules for passwords for example that you cant use keys next to each other doesnt that make password cracking easyer as lot of the possibilites simply arent possible. Ofcourse it doesnt matter if password is long enough but...
    Symbolic dynamics in a nutshell...
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    Re: new user passwords are now 'judged'

    Actually my mistake for not noticing that in prev. it did also use the 'not good enough'.
    The current method was changed quite some time ago (May) for good reasons, ubuntu hasn't upped g-c-c till recently.

    So really the only change was to move from 6 to 9 as min, for my use of add. users have set back to 6 in pwquality.conf

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    Re: new user passwords are now 'judged'

    Quote Originally Posted by Yeeha View Post
    Theoretically... If program creates lot of rules for passwords for example that you cant use keys next to each other doesnt that make password cracking easyer as lot of the possibilites simply arent possible. Ofcourse it doesnt matter if password is long enough but...
    there's an XKCD for everything
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    Re: new user passwords are now 'judged'

    There's a GNOME bug asking for an override option.

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    Re: new user passwords are now 'judged'

    Quote Originally Posted by jbicha View Post
    There's a GNOME bug asking for an override option.
    At least here none of the warnings are 'enforced', not sure then what MC means by 'get past this dialog...'?

    (the whole warning's thing seems a bit suspect as one can go from 'weak', 'fair', 'good' or even 'strong' to 'not good enough' by adding additional characters of certain types/pattern to a weak/fair/good/strong password

    Ex.

    1@3467sdgbz123 = strong
    1@3467sdgbz1234 = not good enough
    (g-c-c seems to use some edits to mentioned conf but not others.

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