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    Security Concern.

    Hi,

    I currently own a gaming server (MInecraft). Someone else hosts it for me. What information could they get or what risk am i at when i connect to the servers control panel externally?

    If you need any more information let me know

    Thank you

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    Re: Security Concern.

    If you log on to your control panel with username and a good password you should be fine there.
    If you do not trust your hosting provider, move elsewhere.
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    Re: Security Concern.

    Quote Originally Posted by arpanaut View Post
    If you log on to your control panel with username and a good password you should be fine there.
    If you do not trust your hosting provider, move elsewhere.

    Ok tell me.. Say if the server hosting company was malicious. what could they get?

    Thank you so much for your help

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    Re: Security Concern.

    Don't know much about Minecraft, but probably saved games, additions and that sort of stuff. What's more important: do you use the same username and password anywhere else?
    I'm thinking about it

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    Re: Security Concern.

    It's really pretty simple: They can get what goes through the wire from your box to their box.

    They already have your credit card because you pay them for hosting your system, and probably bought whatever box it is with it too. Since it's a gaming server I doubt there's much more on there to interest them. If they haven't been sucking extra money out of your account then you're probably fine from the perspective of the hosting company.

    IMO you're not at much of a risk. I would be more worried about an intruder compromising the box with malware, and then attacking your home network from there.

    How is your home firewall? I recommend an appliance-type firewall/router, with everything turned off, and then run your computers inside as though they're unprotected. I do more than that, but IMO that's the place to start.

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    Re: Security Concern.

    Say if the server hosting company was malicious. what could they get?
    Actually they would have access to everything, but if they operated in that manner they would not be in business for very long. Know who you are doing business with.

    Most hosting companies are too busy running their business to be nosing into their clients affairs. Plus at a reputable company it is unethical and grounds for termination for employees to be delving into the clients data. Check the reputation and track record for your provider, if not satisfied, move elsewhere.
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    Re: Security Concern.

    Quote Originally Posted by arpanaut View Post
    Actually they would have access to everything, but if they operated in that manner they would not be in business for very long. Know who you are doing business with.

    Most hosting companies are too busy running their business to be nosing into their clients affairs. Plus at a reputable company it is unethical and grounds for termination for employees to be delving into the clients data. Check the reputation and track record for your provider, if not satisfied, move elsewhere.
    How would they have access to everything? How would they get passed the 'wire' between me and the server... Another question.. obviously because i am connecting to the server they have my public ip.. I Know that they can get your general location but apparently illegally they can get your full address ?

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    Re: Security Concern.

    Quote Originally Posted by themanwithshoes View Post
    How would they have access to everything? How would they get passed the 'wire' between me and the server... Another question.. obviously because i am connecting to the server they have my public ip.. I Know that they can get your general location but apparently illegally they can get your full address ?
    As was said, they already have your payment details, and I don't know anything about the law in your location, but in most cases that would include your address as well.
    What it boils down to: How have you secured your router? With the same username/password as you use to login on your hosted server? If so, better change it immediately. If you have taken the usual precautions, there's not much to worry about.
    I'm thinking about it

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    Re: Security Concern.

    What do you mean by "full address?" Your public IP they can get from the log files, your credit card they have because you pay them, your billing address they have because they use your credit card and you have a contract. Your money they get because you pay them and they have a contract. All of that is legal.

    If your game requires clients to open a port on a public IP, then you might have a problem if there is an exploit for that game.

    The safest way I know is to have multiple firewalls in your home. One allows access to your "demilitarized zone" which contains your gaming box and anything else you want exposed, and another to a private network which gets access strictly limited.

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    Re: Security Concern.

    Thank you for all your replies. They have no payment info so please dont worry about any of that. The user name and password are totally different and random to anything else. They have no details about me at all (Its hard to explain but just thats how it is ) Anyway.. if they had my public ip could they find out your home address? Could they have any access to your network info and or files etc...

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