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    32-bit or 64-bit? 12.04.1 or 12.10?

    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32...ld_I_Choose.3F
    http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop


    According to the help section, I should choose the 64 bit version of Ubuntu unless I have a reason not to, but according to the download page, the 32 bit version is recommended. Assuming I have a 64-bit processor and less than 4 gigabytes of RAM, which of these should I choose? I know RAM isn't the only memory that counts toward the 4 gigabyte limit, but I don't know how to tell how much other addressable memory is installed. I only have 2.8 gibibytes of RAM, so I'm not sure if it matters anyway.


    In addition, 12.04.1 will be supported a while after 12.10 looses support, but 12.10 is more recent. Is it better to use the longer supported version, or is it better to use the version with newer features? Do I even need support? Do I even need newer features? I'm the only one using the computer in question, so whether I upgrade to each new version or only upgrade to long-term supported versions, it won't disrupt other users.


    Basically, I was a Mac user, and I can't use a Mac anymore, at least for the time being. It's a bit of a long story. I refuse to downgrade to Windows, so I when Linux instead. Although, I actually like both Ubuntu and Mint better than OS X now that I've tried them, so I don't think I'll be switching back. Anyway, I don't have any major usage requirements, just some functionality that all major operating systems have, such as a modern browser, Java, Python, Apache (for personal use, not public), and some other things that are available with all four (two times two, not two plus two) current versions of Ubuntu. A few games such as SuperTux2, Mystery of Solaris, and Minetest (again, available to all four) wouldn't be bad either. How do I know which version to choose?


    My other computer is a Frankenbuild, with a 32-bit processor. So, 64-bit Ubuntu is not an option. However, that computer has four users. It's mainly used by my younger siblings. Does that make a difference in deciding whether to stick with long-term supported versions or using the latest stable version?


    Thanks for the advice!

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    Re: 32-bit or 64-bit? 12.04.1 or 12.10?

    Re: Installing 12.10
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    Hmmm spent yesterday spanner and screw driving 12.10, it still runs like a badly tuned Model T Ford or a 2012 Kia Picanto. This not what a modern OS should be like. I tried it on a i7 with 16GB Ram and still had serious performance issues, I fail to see how these issues could be missed in Beta testing, and if they were present and noted the release should have been delayed.
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    Re: 32-bit or 64-bit? 12.04.1 or 12.10?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2F4U View Post
    As far as I understand your post, you are currently running Ubuntu 12.04 and think about upgrading to Ubuntu 12.10. Since 12.04 is LTS and supported for 5 years, may I ask you if there is a serious reason to upgrade, i. e. do you have problems with 12.04 that you think are fixed with 12.10? Or do you want to have the latest and greatest in software? If thats the case, you should possible attempt the upgrade, BUT be aware of that a lot of people here on the forum face problems.
    If you admire a stable system and just want to get your stuff done, stay with 12.04. Since it is LTS it doesn't run out of support in the near future and can be used for years.
    Another post you might be interested in , addressing a similar situation to yours.

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    Re: 32-bit or 64-bit? 12.04.1 or 12.10?

    I would us the 64 bit version on the 64 bit machine, it is a little bit faster and the 32 bit version on the older machine. Whether to use 12.04 or 12.10 depends on whether you like to re-install the OS more frequently. If you choose for 12.10, you normally would upgrade to 13.04 and 13.10 with their new features in April and October of 2013. If you do not like that fuss, go for 12.04 and keep it going for the 5 years it is supported.
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    Re: 32-bit or 64-bit? 12.04.1 or 12.10?

    32 bit vs 64 bit

    My preference is 32, but I really wonder why Ubuntu 32bit is recommended by Canonical. Got to be some good reason.

    And I recommend 12o4 because its LTS and supported for 5 years.

    http://www.googlubuntu.com/results/?...Search&lang=en

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    Re: 32-bit or 64-bit? 12.04.1 or 12.10?

    My recommendation is to go with 64-bit if you have a 64-bit computer, definitely. 32-bit computers can only use about 2 GB of RAM effectively, so unless you have a 32-bit computer there's absolutely no reason to go with a 32-bit OS. And 32-bit is rapidly becoming outdated.

    As for 12.04 vs 12.10, I'd go with 12.04. There aren't many improvements between the two, and some people are finding 12.10 very unstable (I'm using Kubuntu 12.10, and I don't see many problems but it still seems less stable than 12.04, especially when it comes to graphics). And 12.04 is an LTS release, so it'll be supported much longer. You can upgrade at any time from 12.04 to 12.10, but not the other way around.

    Quote Originally Posted by jerrrys View Post
    My preference is 32, but I really wonder why Ubuntu 32bit is recommended by Canonical. Got to be some good reason.
    I think the only reason is that 32-bit is supported on older computers. A 32-bit computer can't run a 64-bit OS, but a 64-bit computer can run a 64-bit OS, so if someone doesn't know if they have a 32-bit or 64-bit processor, downloading the 32-bit version is the best (you can run "uname -p" to find your processor type, x86_64 means 64-bit).

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    Re: 32-bit or 64-bit? 12.04.1 or 12.10?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stonecold1995 View Post
    I think the only reason is that 32-bit is supported on older computers. A 32-bit computer can't run a 64-bit OS, but a 64-bit computer can run a 64-bit OS, so if someone doesn't know if they have a 32-bit or 64-bit processor, downloading the 32-bit version is the best (you can run "uname -p" to find your processor type, x86_64 means 64-bit).
    Sorry, but im having a hard time with that answer. 32bit only machines haven't been around for a long time. So for the sake of the few, sacrifice the many?

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    Re: 32-bit or 64-bit? 12.04.1 or 12.10?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0gbus View Post
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32...ld_I_Choose.3F
    http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop


    According to the help section, I should choose the 64 bit version of Ubuntu unless I have a reason not to, but according to the download page, the 32 bit version is recommended.
    You can safely ignore the "recommended" advice on http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop, it's an old bug that was supposed to be fixed already.

    Choose 64-bit, it'll work fine with your amount of RAM.

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    Re: 32-bit or 64-bit? 12.04.1 or 12.10?

    I have read the posts for this thread and u are the only one saying that 64 is better. I have i7 and 6 ram on my desktop and i wanna install Ubuntu on it, so do u really recommend 64?

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