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    Re: So a technical preview of Novell's Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 is out..

    SLED is sluggish (especially YaST) for me and my Broadcom 4306 acted spotty with ndiswrapper. I don't like the new menu system at all either. I'm d/l MEPIS RC3 now to replace it. My notebook hotkeys don't all work in SLED either, but they do in Ubuntu. The KDE workarounds I know didn't solve the issue either. I'm sure with some configuration it would be fine, but I don't like the menus and it's sluggish comaperd to MEPIS and Ubuntu. The fonts sure are nice though.

    I usually went to SuSE Forums and always found lots of helpful people for whoever asked.
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    Re: So a technical preview of Novell's Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 is out..

    I installed the technical preview on my laptop (which I use for testing systems as I'm always home so my important data is there).

    At first I didn't like how Un-Ubuntuesque it was. The install took a good 40 minutes (My dapper install took more like 20..) and when I first started using it everything was SLOW. Flash support worked oob though, and I enjoyed being able to listen to my pandora account (something I can not do on my desktop because it has errors with flash in firefox).

    As I used it more the new menu system was the first thing to 'grow on me'. I LOVE the new menu system, it is very user-friendly and VERY intuitive. Everything is what you would expect it to be, not what you've been taught it should be. I hope that Ubuntu really takes a que from Suse on the new menu system. Or at least offers a fully functional version as an option..

    The integrated search (the cause of the slowness in my experience) is another REALLY good thing... Although I would like to be able to make folders that are set to do a specific search when opened so that all of my data matching those resuls would be in it, I'll wait for that feature (hopefully in edgy). Regardless the integrated search has made searching for programs and files a breeze.

    For the negatives: I don't have wifi so I can't test it, but one BIG problem is software installation... it took almost 10 minutes to install opera from a .rpm. That's a bit rediculous... and I actually missed the gnome-app-install program when I started up. The first thing I try to do with an OS is make it feel like home, and I can't do that in suse because there isn't any repos yet, I just have what's on the disk.

    I've determined that I am going to play with the beta for a week and see what I come up with, but those are my initial thoughts...
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    Re: So a technical preview of Novell's Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 is out..

    Do I have to start an account with Novell to download this? I'd rather just try it, but it seems the only way is to register with them. I looked on distrowatch but didn't see anything.

    EDIT: Never mind. I found a torrent on Linuxtracker.
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    Re: So a technical preview of Novell's Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 is out..

    I wen't aheead and started an acocount , it might be helpful if I decide to order.


    Another things I found AWESOME about the suse distro I downloaded, the user tutorials included. I think that Ubuntu could use tutorials like that...
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    Re: So a technical preview of Novell's Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 is out..

    It's funny that you mention that. One of the things I liked about my brief experience with Gentoo was the detailed installation guide. I feel a little silly saying it, but I didn't get a guide like that when I started with Ubuntu. I'm sure there's one out there, but even now I don't know where it is.
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    Re: So a technical preview of Novell's Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 is out..

    I think that's an important part of the end user experience...

    I'll give an example:
    I wanted a manual for my fiance who is potentially switching to Ubuntu. In fact I *wanted* to buy an Ubuntu boxed set for her so she could have everything she needed to start, but there's not one in English.

    So basically the task before her is:
    Install Ubuntu, Learn how to install applications in Ubuntu, learn how to get around the new desktop enviroment, etc.

    What is there to tell her how to do this? A wiki page she'll never find unless I point her to it. I know that disk space is important, but at least include a link to stream the help videos for people like her (oh and make them too), but my preference would be a bought boxed set and a manual.
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    Re: So a technical preview of Novell's Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 is out..

    Well, I downloaded the disc set, burned the first three and tried it out.

    It didn't go so well. Installation took about 1.5 hours, and locked up in the final step -- hardware configuration.

    When I reset the machine, it booted into a Gnome environment, but with a wacky resolution that I couldn't fix.

    My network was functional (which is always good), but the screen dimensions were weird and hard to read (very narrow; almost like widescreen compressed to 640x480). Kind of made it a dealbreaker.

    The "Computer" menu didn't really do anything to convert me either. It looks more or less to me like the fancified XP start menu, and I've never had any love for that.

    It was fun to try though. I'm always willing to burn another disc and try something out. This one will go into the "other distro" CD stack, though ... along with a lot of others.

    (By the way, the test machine was a 5-year-old HP XT856 -- 933Mhz, 384Mb, 20Gb, i810 graphics, DVD-ROM/CDRW, Realtek network card ... only $3 at the recycle center! )
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    Re: So a technical preview of Novell's Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 is out..

    I've read an interesting review about SLED 10 at Mad Penguin

    Since I grew up with SuSE Linux I decided to re-install it on my notebook once more for fun and knowledge. I am curious if SuSE Linux is going to recognize all my hardware properly and give me headache with configuration and use.

    My test notebook is an Acer Travelmate 290 (Clone). It has a 1.5Ghz Intel Mobile, 512MB DDR SDRAM, Intel 2200BG Wireless Network and a 40GB Harddrive.
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    Re: So a technical preview of Novell's Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 is out..

    I use suseforums.net, its good for suse linux, but I haven't been able to find support for sled 10. you can use packman, but some packages work and others don't. I'm not sure why your install was so long I have a computer about the same specs and I got about a hour. The package manager *works* now, but its really slow.

    I just hope this all goes into OpenSuse and that they create a version of the slab for kde.

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    Re: So a technical preview of Novell's Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 is out..

    I'm using SLED right now, and I have to say it's pretty damned slick.

    I didn't have to manually edit one config file really. Hardware was all detected. I didn't have to disable IPv6 (had slow DNS lookups in Ubuntu if I didn't). Installed the nVidia drivers through 'Install Software', picked my external monitor (I'm on a laptop) from a list and it defaulted to the native resolution (1680x1050). Enabled Compiz/Xgl with the click of a button and a logout/login. Enabled dualhead with a couple more clicks (turned it off later because I really only want my external monitor). It was all very impressive...

    ...UNTIL, I tried to get DVD playback to work. You'd think they could include some sort of DVD playback in a commercial linux distribution, enterprise or not (I work in an enterprise environment and often watch training videos on DVD). Maybe it will be there in the final release though.

    Trying to get some other repositories set up to install some decent video support I quickly realized that the package manager sucks ****. The GUI is slow and unusable for anything but installing the packages included in the distro (again, I work in an enterprise environment and often have to install non-standard packages). I'm reminded yet again why I hate RPM based distros (it's not using Smart by the way - just YaST AFAIK, I had to install Smart myself)...

    I did finally get the DVD playback going after sacrificing several live chickens, but the performance is shite (the same packages that worked perfectly fine with great performance in Ubuntu).

    There really isn't much of a community that I have found for support either - nothing that seems as active as these forums anyways.

    Anyways, I'm willing to write off the few bad experiences on the fact that it's a release candidate. There hasn't been time for a community to get behind it yet, or to set up all those fun repositories/instructions for the packages everyone really wants. I'd give it six months after it is released in final for some good resources to appear on the net. I just hope the simple configuration experience spreads to other Linux distros...

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