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Thread: What, How, can I have a system without Pulse Audio?

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    What, How, can I have a system without Pulse Audio?

    I can't take it anymore. I can't handle my system randomly breaking or breaking everytime I install an update. If you guys in Ubuntu Studio can't make a stable system with PA and Jack, one of them needs to go. This is ridiculous.

    So seeing as I need Jack more than PA, what steps can I take to have a Jack-only system, and what are the implications for doing so? Will Ubuntu Studio just break more? My productivity is going down the drain because of this. I can't have a system where I never know if it's going to work when I fire it up.

    I can't even search the forum for answers because there are a million results for Pulse and Jack problems. It's a perpetual nightmare. This is my last stand. I've been using Linux for over two years because I highy support the principals of FLOSS. But if I can't get any audio work done, then I have no use for Linux. I'm tired of fixing my system every two months.

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    Re: What, How, can I have a system without Pulse Audio?

    You could try this and see if it helps:

    sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio
    sudo apt-get autoremove

    sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-tools alsa-tools-gui alsa-utils alsa-oss linux-sound-base alsamixergui

    sudo apt-get install esound esound-clients esound-common libesd-alsa0 gnome-alsamixer

    restart your computer!

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    Re: What, How, can I have a system without Pulse Audio?

    No need for uninstall. Just turn it off.
    Code:
    echo "autospawn = no" > ~/.pulse/client.conf && pulseaudio -k
    system will work fine with pulseaudio turned off.

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    Re: What, How, can I have a system without Pulse Audio?

    Quote Originally Posted by jejeman View Post
    No need for uninstall. Just turn it off.
    Code:
    echo "autospawn = no" > ~/.pulse/client.conf && pulseaudio -k
    system will work fine with pulseaudio turned off.
    Nope. This was the first thing I tried and had no success. This is why I want to remove pulseaudio completely.

    @TenPlus1: I'll try that next. Right now I'm looking into another solution.

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    Re: What, How, can I have a system without Pulse Audio?

    Well, if turning off pusleaudio is not a solution then something wicked is going on with your system. Maybe you can tell us what exactly is wrong? Why do you think it is pulseaudio's fault?

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    Re: What, How, can I have a system without Pulse Audio?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhilmers View Post
    I can't take it anymore. I can't handle my system randomly breaking or breaking everytime I install an update.
    There is the option of not using apps that use pulse, or
    perhaps changing their preferences to alsa/jackd.

    Have a few sessions with htop system monitor running, and maybe
    you'll see what's causing problems.

    Pulse is aimed at home theater, more than pro audio, so having
    just one media player installed might help. vlc works with jackd
    for simple overdubbing using timemachine to record both parts.

    Having clean sessions, where no web browser was opened, might also
    help. Updating a working daw is generally bad luck.
    Using external drives to install new versions, is the best option.
    Cheers

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    Re: What, How, can I have a system without Pulse Audio?

    Audio-pro is the great forgotted in linux, its simply a non usable set, u must use other systems if u want do something else than record

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    Re: What, How, can I have a system without Pulse Audio?

    Thanks for the advice so far. I've got one or two things I'm going to try before I go back to Windows XP for audio work.

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    Re: What, How, can I have a system without Pulse Audio?

    Quote Originally Posted by Splashmania View Post
    Audio-pro is the great forgotted in linux, its simply a non usable set, u must use other systems if u want do something else than record
    Mainstream linux devs may fail to consider pro audio as a high priority, but it is a myth that pro results are not readily achievable.

    One needs to start by choosing alsa supported hardware, then jackd compatible software, and have the willingness to learn how the capabilities of jackd connections are best exploited.

    There are many other audio distributions you can use, if some release of Ubuntu Studio is giving you problems (10.04 took ages, but is now quite stable, give 12.04 some more time before relying on it)
    Cheers

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    Re: What, How, can I have a system without Pulse Audio?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhilmers View Post
    Thanks for the advice so far. I've got one or two things I'm going to try before I go back to Windows XP for audio work.
    Describe the work you need to do, and I'll try to point to something specific. pclinuxos is extremely stable,
    libpulse doesn't get involved in audio work, it uses a fast bfs kernel, and has synaptic for .rpm package management.

    The newest .deb apps from 'debian unstable' can be converted to .rpm using alien, and manually installed. Several light versions of the
    pclinuxOS are there to defeat bloatware,
    and the attendant potential of floss incompatibilities.

    A desktop computer, with nvidia graphics card (not the newest) and m-audio pci audio card, with a Yamaha keyboard, and Fender Mustang usb amp for guitar work, is extremely trouble free. I have a dualboot install with xp sp3, and it's 6 or 7 years now on the same install, just updating pclinuxos according to necessity.
    (I always keep XP partition at less than 50% capacity, which really
    helps keep it's paging panties from twisting into a knot

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