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    [HandBrake] FAAC vs FFMPEG or: How to get HE-AAC?

    I use HandBrake to convert my DVDs to MKV. Have no problem with the video settings, but audio codecs offered by HandBrake settings are confusing to me.

    There are two entries for AAC to choose from, faac or ffmpeg. I wonder which one is better. Also, which faac version is this? And does it use CBR or VBR? On the HandBrake wiki there is unfortunately zero information about this.

    Also, I wonder if there is any possiblity to encode to HE-AAC (AAC+) in HandBrake under Ubuntu. I know for Mac OS X that HE-AAC is available. Probably not in Ubuntu. And if so, then how can I convert the audio track to HE-AAC in Ubuntu? I know there is a CLI binary for NeroAAC for Linux. But is there a GUI?

    And if I use faac in HandBrake, is 64kbps enough for a movie? Because I cannot hear any difference to the default setting of 160kbps. So far, I thought one could have the same quality with a 64kbps aac file as with a 128kpbs mp3 file -- at least for he-aac. But what version/implementation of aac is actually used in HandBrake, and what quality delivers it?

    Could really need some help here. I'd like to use HE-AAC for my MKV audio tracks. Or at least AAC with reasonable quality at lowest possible file size.

    Can HandBrake be 'pimped' with more codecs? If not, is there any GUI solution for Nero's CLI? Or any solution with WINE?

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    Re: [HandBrake] FAAC vs FFMPEG or: How to get HE-AAC?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrsUser View Post
    I know there is a CLI binary for NeroAAC for Linux. But is there a GUI?
    ... is there any GUI solution for Nero's CLI? Or any solution with WINE?
    Hi
    When you've put neroAacEnc (CLI) in usr/local/bin folder... DeaDBeeF can be used as a GUI with Ubuntu.
    PPA is here---> https://launchpad.net/~alexey-smirnov/+archive/deadbeef

    Also neroAacEnc.exe can be used with foobar2000 as a GUI with Ubuntu + WINE.

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    Re: [HandBrake] FAAC vs FFMPEG or: How to get HE-AAC?

    Thanks. I had a look, but isn't Deadbeef just an audio player?

    I fiddled with the CLI of Nero now. And I wonder if I could use WinFF as a GUI?!

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    Re: [HandBrake] FAAC vs FFMPEG or: How to get HE-AAC?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrsUser View Post
    ... but isn't Deadbeef just an audio player
    No, DeaDBeeF has a convert option.
    Screenshot attached.

    Load the track(s) and right-click > Convert > Choose an encoder.
    Command line for Nero is like this:-
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    neroAacEnc -q 0.5 -ignorelength -if - -of %o
    Quote Originally Posted by MrsUser View Post
    ... I wonder if I could use WinFF as a GUI?!
    I don't think so.

    Your questions about HandBrake...

    It uses faac.
    With HandBrake GUI it's probably CBR.

    The other aac option is AAC(ffmpeg).
    I suppose this uses FFmpeg's own aac encoder.

    Probably faac is the best choice of the two.

    HandBrake documentation says:-
    HandBrake does not support external encoders. It is not possible to add an encoder to HandBrake at runtime. All the encoder libraries are built in and not dynamically linked/loaded at runtime.
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    Re: [HandBrake] FAAC vs FFMPEG or: How to get HE-AAC?

    The info was very helpful. Thanks a lot!

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    Re: [HandBrake] FAAC vs FFMPEG or: How to get HE-AAC?

    While I'm not currently at liberty to test this, it may be possible to use qtaacenc or qaac under Wine to access the AAC encoder that ships with Quicktime/iTunes (qaac only relies on the Apple Application Support rather than the full package). There is at least some support for Quicktime or its components under Wine, but I'm not sure how well or if it extends to making the encoder stable.

    This is relevant to the discussion seeing as the Quicktime AAC encoder is on the same level as Nero or actually superior to it now according to ABX tests (I never really liked Nero myself, so I've been using the Quicktime encoder as my go-to for 8+ years now).
    Last edited by qyot27; September 9th, 2012 at 04:17 PM.

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