GNOME-flavoured Ubuntu Spin Coming

[mamamia88]

You're taking for granted the fact that these packages would be in the repo, and as well supported, if there weren't the respins. These respin projects often act as a rally point for people interested in packaging and polishing the software for Ubuntu.

also they all probably wouldn't all fit on a single disc and what if you didn't have internet? also what if i don't like unity or kde? would i be forced to install kubuntu or ubuntu just to install gnome-shell and have a bunch of kde crap i might not want on my system? Personally i prefer the spins.

[Linuxratty]

I have been trying a Gnome spin for an associate.it's Gnome spin Fedora 17, frankly it is terrible, I doubt that a Gnome spin Ubuntu will be any improvement.

This is what I suspect the outcome of this experiment will be...Could be wrong,time will tell as they say.

[Primefalcon]

also they all probably wouldn't all fit on a single disc and what if you didn't have internet? also what if i don't like unity or kde? would i be forced to install kubuntu or ubuntu just to install gnome-shell and have a bunch of kde crap i might not want on my system? Personally i prefer the spins.

it'd only install what desktop you choose.... why would it install kde if you choose xfce?

[forrestcupp]

I admit it, i waste optical media all the time The idea is that i can give to someone to keep and tryout. I also often get the dvd iso, for the other languages included.

That's a worthy use of a blank DVD.

The whole point of this is freedom and having multiple options.

I for one would rather have options than success. Success is such a foul objective for open source anyway. We do not need another successful OS that only brings one choice, we already have OS/X and windows for that.

If you change the word success to "mainstream use", I think you have a good point. We don't need Linux to be turned into another commercial OS that is controlled by people who care more about their agenda than what people actually want. That's why Windows 8 is so atrocious for the desktop.

Fragmentation ; The act or process of breaking into fragments.

Of course its a myth. It's a myth that there is 100's of Linux Distributions. Its a myth that there is multiple packaging systems. Its a myth that there is multiple file systems.

Why don't Enterprises flock to Linux? Simple which one would they choose? should they spend ten years testing them all when they can go to their suppliers and get Windows or OSX.

Why don't Game suppliers flock to Linux? Simple which one would they choose? or should they spend huge sums developing for them all to have each trade at a loss.

Why don't consumers flock to Linux? Simple which one would they choose? Windows or OSX is in the High Street Appliance store.

But of course the +/-1% after twenty years is a myth, fragmentation is a myth, success is therefore a myth.

You're an admin of a Linux forum, yet you never have anything positive to say about Linux.

[vexorian]

I did intend to mean success in the sense of "mainstream use".

You're an admin of a Linux forum, yet you never have anything positive to say about Linux.

I wouldn't dig on that topic.

[mamamia88]

it'd only install what desktop you choose.... why would it install kde if you choose xfce?

As of right now there is no gnome-shell spin in 12.04. If i wanted gnome shell i would have to install one of the other buntus and apt-get install gnome-shell. If you wanted to have the option on the installer you would either have to make sure everyone has internet access out of the box or include it on the cd. It's best to have it on the cd if possible. The DE probably takes up the vast majority of the space on any installer cd. You get what i'm saying? Sure we could provide a dvd with all of it but i don't know about you but i would rather download a 700mb iso than a 4gb iso especially on my 3mb connection.

[KiwiNZ]

That's a worthy use of a blank DVD.

If you change the word success to "mainstream use", I think you have a good point. We don't need Linux to be turned into another commercial OS that is controlled by people who care more about their agenda than what people actually want. That's why Windows 8 is so atrocious for the desktop.

You're an admin of a Linux forum, yet you never have anything positive to say about Linux.

I am extremely passionate about Linux and in particular Ubuntu, do really think I would have given 8 years of my life to these Forums and been a user and supplier of Linux products since the 90's.

What I don't believe in is the elitist garbage that prevails the Linux community, I actually want see Linux develop and be available all and to be a commercial success.

[forrestcupp]

I am extremely passionate about Linux and in particular Ubuntu, do really think I would have given 8 years of my life to these Forums and been a user and supplier of Linux products since the 90's.

What I don't believe in is the elitist garbage that prevails the Linux community, I actually want see Linux develop and be available all and to be a commercial success.

It's good to hear you say this to reassure us that you still care.

I don't like the elitist garbage, either. But it actually seems to be much less here than with other distros.

[irv]

I didn't want to start a new thread and seeing we have been talking about GNOME here, I thought I would post about
Linus Torvalds comment: “GNOME Are In Total Denial”
The comment was based on this: GNOME Founder Says Desktop Linux is Dead

[vexorian]

That article is really not about GS. but rather about Icaza's BS comments lately.

In fact, Linux pretty much did what I envisioned back in 1991 when I first released it. Pretty much all subsequent development was driven by outside ideas of what other people needed or wanted to do. Not by some internal vision of where things “should” go.

That’s exactly the reverse of the gnome “we know better” mentality, and “We will force Corba/.NET down your throat whether you like it or not, and if you complain, you’re against progress, and cannot handle the change”.

Some gnome people seem to be in total denial about what their problem really is. They’ll wildly blame everybody except themselves.

This is like my most favorite Linus' rant ever.

I am going to go buy I <3 Linus Torvalds t-shirts somewhere.