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    How to install Debian 7 "Wheezy" testing with LXDE

    Hi, Ubuntu has improve usability for novice users compared to Debian? Difference between Debian and Ubuntu: Ubuntu easy to use but bloated? Debian More resource efficient but for experienced Linux users?

    Is done at your own risk & I take no responsibility for any loss or damage. / Görs på egen risk & jag tar inget ansvar för förlust eller skada. (sentence in Swedish)

    "Kind of" step-by-step installation, Internet connection required for a "complete" system
    1. Download & install debian-testing-i386-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso with or without an Internet connection
    2. Open Root-terminal: leafpad /etc/apt/sources.list
    3. Backup old sources.list, replace all sources with following & save to /etc/apt/sources.list:

    deb http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
    deb-src http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
    deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
    deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
    deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free
    deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian experimental main

    4. Open Root-terminal (or LXTerminal with su command):
    ifconfig eth0 up
    dhclient eth0
    apt-get update && apt-get upgrade

    See also: http://manual.aptosid.com/en/sys-adm...tm#apt-upgrade

    5. Network management
    Open Root-terminal: apt-get install network-manager-gnome

    leafpad /etc/X11/Xsession
    Add line, save & reboot: exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch wm

    (Emergency only NetworkManager workaround, run as a privileged process. Open Root-terminal: nm-applet or nm-connection-editor)

    6. Shutdown/reboot button doesn't show up?
    Open Root-terminal: apt-get install lightdm

    Change default display manager to "lightdm".

    Root-terminal: leafpad /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf

    greeter-hide-users=true to
    #greeter-hide-users=true

    #autologin-user= to
    autologin-user=USERNAME

    7. Graphical package management
    Open Root-terminal: apt-get install synaptic

    8. Need a web browser?
    Open Root-terminal: apt-get install iceweasel
    Or, reminder experimental, is done at your own risk (as usual):
    apt-get update && apt-get install -t experimental iceweasel

    9. Open Iceweasel & download Google Chrome web browser https://www.google.com/chrome
    Install Google Chrome from the Root-terminal:
    http://www.math.utah.edu/lab/unix/unix-commands.html#cd
    dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb

    Alternative way, open Root-terminal:
    wget -q -O - https://dl-ssl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | sudo apt-key add -
    sh -c 'echo "deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list'

    Details of Google's google-chrome.list:
    /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list

    ### THIS FILE IS AUTOMATICALLY CONFIGURED ###
    # You may comment out this entry, but any other modifications may be lost.
    deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main

    Open Root-terminal:
    apt-get install google-chrome-stable
    Or, reminder is done at your own risk (as usual):
    apt-get install google-chrome-beta
    apt-get install google-chrome-unstable

    "new versions of the Flash Player browser plugin for Linux will only be available as part of Google Chrome." - http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente...ly_choice.html

    Google Chrome tracking & if you're concerned use Chromium instead!

    See also: Re: Chromium Flash Pepper on precise, how? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...4&postcount=13

    8. Java with IcedTea
    Open Root-terminal: apt-get install icedtea-6-plugin

    9. Time synchronization via Internet
    Open Root-terminal: apt-get install ntp

    10. LibreOffice office productivity suite
    Open Synaptic, search for LibreOffice & install the "libreoffice" metapackage.

    Install from repositories with a GUI: Synaptic Package Manager
    Install .deb packages from Root-terminal: dpkg -i

    "Installation of binary packages from unknown sources is strongly discouraged!" - http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unstable/

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    Re: How to install Debian 7 "Wheezy" testing with LXDE

    Interesting

    Har du jämfört din installation jämfört med Knoppix och Linux Mint Debian?

    Having fun finding out

    Olle

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    Re: How to install Debian 7 "Wheezy" testing with LXDE

    If I have compared installation to Knoppix and Linux Mint Debian? They have different target groups: Debian is targeted at both server & desktop(?). Knoppix & Linux Mint Debian for the desktop.

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    Re: How to install Debian 7 "Wheezy" testing with LXDE

    Moved to Other OS/Distro Talk.

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    Re: How to install Debian 7 "Wheezy" testing with LXDE

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyfang View Post
    If I have compared installation to Knoppix and Linux Mint Debian? They have different target groups: Debian is targeted at both server & desktop(?). Knoppix & Linux Mint Debian for the desktop.
    I mean: What is different in your install (according to post #1) and those distros? What are you giving priority, and what are you skipping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olle Wiklund View Post
    I mean: What is different in your install (according to post #1) and those distros? What are you giving priority, and what are you skipping?
    My installation creates a fast system. It's fast! To be honest the main priority was to get everything working at the beginning, but I'm really satisfied with the result. I'm using the Btrfs file system. Caution however, don't try this file system on production machines without fear of dealing with problems. Currently the Btrfs file system is under heavy development, so is btrfsck (for file system checking).
    Code:
    dmesg | grep btrfs
    [ 3.373001] btrfs: disk space caching is enabled
    [ 11.988479] btrfs: disk space caching is enabled

    Beware with Debian testing, software can stop working, the system can break. You get newer packages with testing (& unstable). I'm writing this on an experimental package: Iceweasel (web browser).

    Code:
    iceweasel --version
    Mozilla Iceweasel 13.0.1

    Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) has a simplified installation process compared to my installation. LMDE comes with the Adobe Flash Player plugin pre-installed.

    Knoppix is designed for running as a Live CD or Live USB. I tried Knoppix long time ago. I would recommend to create a Live USB in persistent mode, since otherwise you won't be able to save anything to it.

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    Re: How to install Debian 7 "Wheezy" testing with LXDE

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyfang View Post
    My installation creates a fast system. It's fast! To be honest the main priority was to get everything working at the beginning, but I'm really satisfied with the result ...

    Beware with Debian testing, software can stop working, the system can break. You get newer packages with testing (& unstable) ...
    Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) has a simplified installation process compared to my installation. LMDE comes with the Adobe Flash Player plugin pre-installed ...

    Knoppix is designed for running as a Live CD or Live USB. I tried Knoppix long time ago. I would recommend to create a Live USB in persistent mode, since otherwise you won't be able to save anything to it.
    I guess you mean fast on a [fairly] new computer, for example fast booting, fast loading of programs and HD video playing without problems

    I agree about LMDE. Out of the box it can do what most people need. But I have tried a recent version of Knoppix. Today it is more than a good live system with excellent hardware detection for portability and rescue etc. I have installed it in an ancient desktop with a 400 MHz CPU and 192 MB RAM (regular installation, not frugal with a loop-mounted file for persistence). And it works really well.

    But as you wrote: 'Beware with Debian testing' unless you know enough to fix it, or can wait until in will be patched via new updates. So Ubuntu or an Ubuntu based system might be better for daily use.

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    Lightbulb Re: How to install Debian 7 "Wheezy" testing with LXDE

    If you want bleeding edge Debian with LXDE, Siduction Linux is very nice.

    http://siduction.org

    Tim
    Cyberpower PC, Core i5 2500 3.3 gHz, 8GB DDR3, ATI 6770 1GB, Samsung BX 2440 LED 1080p, 1 TB SATA III, 2 TB SATA III, Siduction Linux 64-bit

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    Re: How to install Debian 7 "Wheezy" testing with LXDE

    Thanks Olle for sharing your experiences of using Knoppix & LMDE!
    Quote Originally Posted by Olle Wiklund View Post
    But as you wrote: 'Beware with Debian testing' unless you know enough to fix it, or can wait until in will be patched via new updates. So Ubuntu or an Ubuntu based system might be better for daily use.
    Analysing my experience using Debian 7 "Wheezy" testing by reflecting the bugs or other issues:

    libreoffice: terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeException' because of wrong profile permissions (link)
    Windows 7 SP1 upgrade – error 0x800f0a12 and the solution (link)
    • Problem changing locales and language settings.
    • VirtualBox dkms package problem related for the need of installing a Linux header or similar.
    • Need to run as root to access USB drives from VirtualBox.
    • Cannot connect to WIFI:

    Code:
    ifconfig wlan0 up
    SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill

    • NTFS-3G driver high CPU usage.
    • Microphone doesn't work with Skype 4.0.0.7. Audacity 2.0.1 recording with my inbuilt microphone in the laptop doesn't work either.
    Code:
    cat /proc/asound/version
    Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24.
    Code:
    uname -a
    Linux debian 3.2.0-3-686-pae #1 SMP Thu Jun 28 08:56:46 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux

    I also want to learn how to use Reportbug or Reportbug-NG (GUI).

    Experiencing problems with different packages due to Debian Testing constantly changing. I still like testing & the feeling of an OS "making progress", a rolling-release distro. However in Debian stable severe bugs are often fixed & hence the most serious types of bugs avoided.

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    Re: How to install Debian 7 "Wheezy" testing with LXDE

    Is done at your own risk and I take no responsibility for any loss or damage (as usual). Time to update the distro? Beaware that it can break at any point. Open Root-terminal (or LXTerminal with su command):
    Code:
    apt-get update && apt-get upgrade

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