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    GNObuntu ?

    Hi all
    Does anyone know if there is any development going on for a pure Gnome edition of 12.10 ?

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTEwMTU

    And if there is, where to follow it ?

    I know there is the "Gnome Shell Remix" of ubuntu

    http://ubuntu-gs-remix.sourceforge.net/p/home/

    Does it have anything to do with the above ?

    Thanks

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    Re: GNObuntu ?

    The idea was approved at UDS-Q, all we need now is for someone to start work on it.

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    Re: GNObuntu ?

    what would one need to do to start working on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cariboo907 View Post
    The idea was approved at UDS-Q, all we need now is for someone to start work on it.
    Sorry to hear that no one started working on it yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by VMC View Post
    Have you tried gnome-panel? That's what I'm using and loving it.
    Well.. I played around with Gnome on Fedora 17 and what I really liked was:

    1. It not using as much memory as Unity when running idle

    2. The way it handles the graphical desktop ( Gnome-Shell )
    They are using clutter / mutter instead of compiz and the llvmpipe so that Gnome-Shell can be used without 3D acceleration hardware, or the appropriate drivers.
    Maybe Quantal will use the llvmpipe too since there will be no Unity 2D ?

    3. Reorganization of the directories (Usrmove) for executable files and libraries that are now all in the root directory / usr.

    I know that the ubuntu developers are looking at these issues, but I don't know if it's possible for them to implement such huge changes ( clutter / mutter instead of compiz ) or (Usrmove).

    Still I prefer Unity over Gnome-Shell for it's usability, but I admire the Fedora developers for their innovation.
    Last edited by Stinger; June 9th, 2012 at 11:52 AM.

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    Hi,

    I was doing some work on "GNOMEbuntu". My current blocker is that I've yet to figure out how to generate a Ubuntu-style live/installer ISO from a seed (i.e., the list of packages I want to be included by default). That process is not very well documented.

    I'd prefer the process I use to be as close as possible to the way official images are generated. If anyone knows how to do that, I'd be happy to have the help!

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    Re: GNObuntu ?

    Preseeding ?
    I don't know if you can use this, but here there is a guide on:

    Automating the installation using preseeding

    Using preseeding

    Preseeding other packages

    InstallCDCustomization

    Installing extra packages in your preseed file

    Or you might have a look at Jan Hoffmann's livecd script for the Ubuntu Gnome Shell Remix:

    http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubun...0120427.12.04/

    But I'm not familiar with building installer iso's
    Hope it helps.
    Last edited by Stinger; June 11th, 2012 at 05:23 PM.

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    Re: GNObuntu ?

    Quote Originally Posted by jbicha View Post
    Hi,

    I was doing some work on "GNOMEbuntu". My current blocker is that I've yet to figure out how to generate a Ubuntu-style live/installer ISO from a seed (i.e., the list of packages I want to be included by default). That process is not very well documented.

    I'd prefer the process I use to be as close as possible to the way official images are generated. If anyone knows how to do that, I'd be happy to have the help!
    try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization and see if it will work for you

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    Re: GNObuntu ?

    I'm not a developer, but if you need someone to help test this once you have an iso, am happy to help out. Maybe a suggestion would be if someone could create an extension that adds updates to the shutdown/logout/etc menu like in Unity, which I think would be great and help with integration to make it feel less like you've just got standard Ubuntu and added gnome-shell to it.

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    Ubuntu 12.10 has now reached alpha2 and still not much news regarding a GNObuntu or Gubuntu.

    I have been testing out Fedora17,although It's giving me a very pleasant Gnome3 experience, it comes with a few rough edges and the tools and the software I'm used to from Ubuntu are either not available or not working without a bit of tweaking.

    I'm not alone in my Quest for the best Gnome3 distribution

    So now what to do ?
    I found this article on:
    Totally remove Unity from Ubuntu 12.04
    I tried it with a vanilla 12.10 Alpha2, I't works but there are just to many trade off's to make it useful yet, the biggest pain is that every time you have to make a partial upgrade you get all the unity packages and dependencies back again.

    This brought me back to the Ubuntu Gnome-shell remix
    What if I added the Gnome-Shell Testing PPA and the GNOME3 Team ppa ?
    It worked and I had a running almost clean Gnome 3.5.3(mostly).
    But again there is a trade off, I lose my Gnome Shell Extensions, and I can't live without those.

    So conclusion from here is;
    The best working and most flexible (software wise) installation at present is a vanilla install of the Ubuntu Gnome-shell remix without adding any GNOME3 Team or Gnome-Shell Testing ppa's.
    My Kudos to Jan Hoffmann and everyone else (if any ) involved in the project, I love what you are doing.
    I can highly recommend it to anyone who would like to work with a Gnome-Shell only desktop.
    But be a bit careful when adding ppa's

    Unlike Linus, I really love my giant smartphone, point and click just works, IMHO Gnome-shell is a very productive desktop environment.
    Last edited by Stinger; July 13th, 2012 at 10:58 AM.

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