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    Lightbulb Why make the HUD without some logical features? How can I help add them?

    1) The HUD should allow the users to add tools and options not found in any drop down menu.


    I know the HUD only lets you access items in dropdown menus, giving the HUD a large blind-spot. Inkscape won't let you select tools using the HUD. I should be able to add them or my favorites, at least. There are lots of little options and checkboxes found on Libreoffice and Inkscape that I wish I could turn on and off with the HUD, quickly. There should be a way to add them. Right now there seems to be no plan to add such a feature and there should be.



    2)Why isn't there a universal "close" command? I have to memorize which program needs "close", "quit", or "exit".

    Yes, CTRL-Q is faster, but new users, which 12.04 focuses even further on, could have "close this program" as a HUD option for all programs, searchable by typing "cl" <enter>.

    3)Unity 2d is so stable, but it has GUI quirks that hold it back.

    You can test this in your Unity2d: a) The mouse interferes with the HUD, making Unity 2d unusable; trying to use unity 2d's hud will cause accidents if the mouse is in its way. b) New windows within a program have a high probability of appearing behind the program.

    4) Application shortcuts and macros should be searchable. Right? After all, there are hundreds!

    There can be hundreds of shortcuts for each application we use. I generally learn the ones I need the most, but I'd love it if we could search these in the hud.


    Let me know your thoughts on these. How can I get these added? Are these really difficult features for the Ubuntu staff to add?

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    Re: Why make the HUD without some logical features? How can I help add them?

    1) The menus already exist when HUD searches them. To have it pre-emptively search for everything would require it to create all of that temporarily, using a huge amount of RAM and rendering it unusable on many machines. How many things that are not menus do you think, say LibreOffice has?

    2) That might be a good idea. If you hit Alt+Space, you get a window manager dropdown, allowing you to do X or Y with that window-they could include that in HUD. The reason they are all different names is that the developers called the menu item for quit a different name.

    3) Unity2d is on its way out, apparently. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/05/u...1+Ubuntu%21%29 ...so no worries there then.

    4) Shortcuts, possible but difficult; macros-don't think so. Maybe for the default ubuntu apps, but no more.

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    Re: Why make the HUD without some logical features? How can I help add them?

    Quote Originally Posted by MG&TL View Post
    3) Unity2d is on its way out, apparently. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/05/u...1+Ubuntu%21%29 ...so no worries there then.
    This news killed me. I'm so sad right now. I don't even care about this thread now. They can do whatever they want with Ubuntu.

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    Re: Why make the HUD without some logical features? How can I help add them?

    Quote Originally Posted by Isaacgallegos View Post
    This news killed me. I'm so sad right now. I don't even care about this thread now. They can do whatever they want with Ubuntu.
    Well, on the bright side, apparently unity3d should be speedier for those with less graphics hardware (myself included).

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    Re: Why make the HUD without some logical features? How can I help add them?

    I honestly dont see how HUD will ever replace traditional menus as canonical is planning, HUD is more or less for command gurus who spend all day in a terminal not for a user who just wants to get crap done.
    Having to hit alt l then manually typing in the task you want to do is not my idea of "user friendly"
    There is a device called a mouse people!

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    Re: Why make the HUD without some logical features? How can I help add them?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadmanRB View Post
    I honestly dont see how HUD will ever replace traditional menus as canonical is planning, HUD is more or less for command gurus who spend all day in a terminal not for a user who just wants to get crap done.
    Having to hit alt l then manually typing in the task you want to do is not my idea of "user friendly"
    There is a device called a mouse people!
    ...and what proportion of people who use ubuntu are power users? Therefore, there is a market.

    Also, you really should add "in my opinion".

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    Re: Why make the HUD without some logical features? How can I help add them?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadmanRB View Post
    I honestly dont see how HUD will ever replace traditional menus as canonical is planning, HUD is more or less for command gurus who spend all day in a terminal not for a user who just wants to get crap done.
    Having to hit alt l then manually typing in the task you want to do is not my idea of "user friendly"
    There is a device called a mouse people!
    If you don't like it use something else.

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    Re: Why make the HUD without some logical features? How can I help add them?

    Quote Originally Posted by Isaacgallegos View Post
    This news killed me. I'm so sad right now. I don't even care about this thread now. They can do whatever they want with Ubuntu.
    FWIW, the idea is to make the 3D version of Unity available on hardware that is currently unsupported.

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    Re: Why make the HUD without some logical features? How can I help add them?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadmanRB View Post
    I honestly dont see how HUD will ever replace traditional menus as canonical is planning, HUD is more or less for command gurus who spend all day in a terminal not for a user who just wants to get crap done.
    Having to hit alt l then manually typing in the task you want to do is not my idea of "user friendly"
    There is a device called a mouse people!
    Exactly, looking in help files or browsing google for ages because you just can't find where option "x" is, is so so much more user friendly then hitting alt and typing in option "x"


    On topic: I think the best place to propose the ideas is the ayatana mailing list but for some reason their launchpad site does not work for some reason at the moment
    https://launchpad.net/~ayatana

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    Re: Why make the HUD without some logical features? How can I help add them?

    Yeah, it's missing..

    They wouldn't really listen to user ideas anyway...

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