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    ddate is missing

    After upgrading to 12.04 I find that ddate is missing. Searching for ddate on launchpad doesn't return anything, though the string is apparently mentioned in i3status.

    Anybody have a clue on what happened to it or how to get it back?

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    Re: ddate is missing

    Apparently it is missing from the Precise version of util-linux. (It's there in the Oneiric package.)

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    Re: ddate is missing

    As you probably know, or maybe not, ddate has a long and checkered history. If you want a bit of context look through the util-linux Debian package changelog. You'll find gems such as this:

    Code:
    * Drop ddate.  Closes: #149321, #174459, #180737
    Bug #149321 is a famous one and represents the core of the problem, i.e. some people with dubious moral compasses are easily offended by fictional/satirical religions. Needless to say common sense prevailed and ddate was put back in on the next version.

    But a while ago it was nipped in the bud (upstream) when someone at Red Hat made building it optional:

    Code:
    build-sys: add --enable-ddate
    
    Don't build this crazy thing by default.
    
    Signed-off-by: Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>
    Nice.

    So there you have it, you now have to build util-linux with --enable-ddate to get it. I think I'll start to separate distros on the basis of whether or not they use this flag when building the package.

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    Re: ddate is missing

    Thanks for the reply! Yes, I knew that there had been some attempts to remove it in the past.

    Do you think a bug report would do any good or is its absence intentional by Ubuntu?

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    Re: ddate is missing

    I don't believe it was intentional, the build defaults just changed and the maintainer probably doesn't use ddate so it went unnoticed.

    There's already a bug (#988925) open on launchpad which I updated with the information I mentioned previously.

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    Re: ddate is missing

    Thanks for all of the useful information. I successfully built my own util-linux with ddate enabled. Hopefully this gets fixed in Ubuntu's repositories soon.

    I'll mark this thread as solved, since I have recovered ddate on my system and the ultimate resolution of the problem depends on action taken on the bug report.

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    Re: ddate is missing

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    Thanks for all of the useful information.
    +1. For a moment, I had memories of a similarly named MS-DOS utility that performed an almost entirely unrelated function, and needed to look it up!
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    Re: ddate is missing

    I have solved this by installing the Debian package of util-linux, as the ddate flag seems to be the only difference with the Ubuntu one.
    But this crazy inquisitor at Fedora/Red Hat/upstream (Karel Zak) has serious intentions of removing ddate whatsoever in the future... http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-devel-lis.../msg01725.html

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