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    Re: Howto make USB boot drives

    Sudodus-

    I just tried out your script and it works perfectly. Using Kubuntu 18.04 I was required to install exact first. Perhaps a check at install for all required libraries may help newbies?
    It's no biggie though...

    I used an old 8gb sd card through a micro sd to USB adapter attached to an USB 3 hub connected by a 10 mtr usb2 extension
    cable (2 x 5mtr - my HTPC is in the attic). If your script is going to work in this setup it is pretty robust!

    I installed the fsarchiver.iso to the 8gb and then used that to back up my original ssd and then restore my / and /home partitions to my spare ssd and it is working perfectly.

    Nicely done son, will be using this from now on, keep up the good work!
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    Re: Howto make USB boot drives

    Quote Originally Posted by vidtek View Post
    Sudodus-

    I just tried out your script and it works perfectly. Using Kubuntu 18.04 I was required to install exact first. Perhaps a check at install for all required libraries may help newbies?
    It's no biggie though...
    I am glad that it works well for you.

    You are right, in the installer there should be a check for necessary help packages to be installed. I'll fix that in the next version



    Edit: The installer is updated so that it checks for expect and zenity in the current version mkusb-plug 2.1, that is uploaded now. (There are some other bug-fixes too.)

    Code:
    #!/bin/bash
    
    # Copyright (c) 2020
    # Nio Wiklund alias sudodus <nio dot wiklund at gmail dot com>
    # Thomas Schmitt <scdbackup@gmx.net>
    # Provided under GPL version 2 or later.
    
    # date        sign     comment
    #
    # 2019-12-23  sudodus  created GUI version 2; version 1 is text only)
    #                      using xorriso-dd-target, mkusb-minp, zenity, expect
    #                      plus standard tools in Ubuntu and Debian
    # 2019-12-27  sudodus  bugfixes for Debian in
    #                       ver_test_minp: sudo added
    #                       main: sudo added in 'test_tool sudo mkusb-minp'
    #                      get_target: new text 'Do you expect ...?'
    #                      main: added check for -h and -v
    #                      installer: added check for zenity and expect  
    
    version=2.1
    ...
    See this link: help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/plug
    Last edited by sudodus; 2 Weeks Ago at 05:02 PM. Reason: mkusb-plug version 2.1 uploaded

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    Re: Howto make USB boot drives

    Just finished testing the 181229 daily of mkusb-plug.

    I like this installer, it is at least as easy as installing mkusb/gidus,
    except...
    There were problems with Samba, (there always seems to be problems with Samba).
    The program ran fine and made a working focal Persistent drive.

    The things I don't like Include:

    - The Try/Install page, grub menu is better. (But it is OK for people mainly wanting an installer thumb drive).

    - Lack of grub 2. I use a mkusb foundation for most Flash drive projects. Your grub system is the main reason. It works great for standard persistent drives. It is easy to modify for Multi Booting ISO's, and for Full Installs etc.

    - There is no NTFS data partition. I think this is a necessity with large flash drives or SSDs.

    Thank you for your hard work.

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    Re: Howto make USB boot drives

    @ C.S.Cameron,

    Thanks for testing mkusb-plug and for the detailed feedback

    I do not intend to replace the current mkusb-dus, but mkusb-plug can be an alternative alongside the good old version.

    Is there any feature of mkusb-plug, that you think could be included into mkusb-dus to make it better?

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    Re: Howto make USB boot drives

    mkusb-plug 2.2

    I made an option to create a live (live-only) drive with a 'usbdata' partition for storage. You can select three file systems

    1. NTFS - compatible with Windows 10, not earlier versions because it is not partition #1, It you want earlier versions to manage a usbdata partition, you should use good old mkusb-dus.

    2. exFAT - compatible with Windows 10 and newer versions of MacOS (at least read only in MacOS).

    3. FAT32 - compatible with most operating systems (except earlier versions of Windows because it is not partition #1), but the file size is limited to 4 GiB as we both know.

    Please try and look for bugs in mkusb-plug 2.2

    See this link: help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/plug

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    Re: Howto make USB boot drives

    mkusb-xscl uses xorriso-dd-target

    mkusb-xscl is a wrapper script that helps the user to identify the target device with all the options and methods of xorriso-dd-target.

    mkusb-xorr was renamed to mkusb-xscl, where 'xscl' is an acronym for eXtra Safe CLoner.

    - The wrapper script calls xorriso-dd-target.

    - There is a main menu, where you can select the options to be used. These options are saved in a file.

    - I tried to make it reasonably user friendly.

    You can find an experimental version of mkusb-xscl at

    help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb/xscl

    0. Download the tarball mkusb-xscl-plus-tools.tar.gz and extract xscl-dir with its files.

    1. There is a GUI (using zenity like mkusb-dus). (For example the final checkpoint is a modified copy of that for mkusb-dus).

    2. There is an installer in xscl-dir,

    3. There are checks for necessary programs, that you may have to install into your version or flavour of Ubuntu or Debian.

    4. How should I make mkusb-xscl avallable, when ready for regular users?

    - via PPA: ppa:mkusb/ppa
    - as a tarball (like this experimental version)
    - some other way?

    5. Some bugs are found and squashed but there are probably more bugs to squash before mkusb-xscl can get rid of the label 'experimental'


    Please have a look at mkusb-xscl and tell me what you think.
    Last edited by sudodus; 2 Weeks Ago at 01:25 PM. Reason: 'mkusb-xorr' was renamed to 'mkusb-xscl'

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    Re: Howto make USB boot drives

    I had no problem with mkusb-plug, until yesterdays version, It started warning that mkfs.exfat was not in path and exited.
    Returning to the last version, it started working again.

    I did find mkusb-xscl too complex.
    A good set of instructions might help but probably would not be followed by a lot of people.

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    Re: Howto make USB boot drives

    Quote Originally Posted by C.S.Cameron View Post
    I had no problem with mkusb-plug, until yesterdays version, It started warning that mkfs.exfat was not in path and exited.
    Returning to the last version, it started working again.
    I see the problem. Did you upgrade by installing mkusb-plug manually or by running the updated installer from the new tarball?

    This new version of the installer should look for mkfs.exfat and some other tools, that should be available in order to run all the possible actions by mkusb-plug. And if necessary help you install them.

    Please try the new version of the installer and let me know if it works (helps you make mkfs.exfat and some other tools available).

    Edit 1: Or do you think that the user should not be forced to install exfat-utils and exfat-fuse (that bring mkfs.exfat and other exfat tools). That the issue would be raised only if/when trying to create an exFAT partition? I could modify mkusb-plug to work like that.

    Edit 2: I decided that I should modify mkusb-plug to work like that: mkfs.exfat need not be available (there will only be a warning), but of course, if the user tries to create an exfat file system, mkusb-plug will fail. Anyway, a new tarball is uploaded now. It contains also a new version of xorriso-dd-target. Please try it

    I did find mkusb-xscl too complex.
    A good set of instructions might help but probably would not be followed by a lot of people.
    Yes, I understand and I must agree with you. If you find it difficult I am sure that it will be too difficult for a lot of people [to use without reading detailed instructions which is the typical way people use such tools]. I am thinking about methods to help people get things set more or less automatically rather than having such a wide set of options.

    Maybe it will be difficult to make a GUI for xorriso-dd-target that is better than mkusb-plug, and at the same time, maybe it is enough with mkusb-plug. What do you think about that?
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    Re: Howto make USB boot drives

    I tried today's version of mkusb-plug.
    If it would put a shortcut on my desktop, there are times I would use it instead of guidus.
    (There would still be times I require mkusb's usbboot though).
    Wondering if there is anyway to split available space between persistence and data.
    I am impressed with how much you have done in a short time.

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    Re: Howto make USB boot drives

    Quote Originally Posted by C.S.Cameron View Post
    I tried today's version of mkusb-plug.
    If it would put a shortcut on my desktop, there are times I would use it instead of guidus.
    (There would still be times I require mkusb's usbboot though).
    I am thinking of integrating mkusb-plug into the mkusb PPA and I am also thinking of making a desktop file to add to the menu and possibility to put it onto the desktop. But I will probably wait with that until the tool itself is in a stable phase (when it is reliable and needs no major improvemnets).
    Wondering if there is anyway to split available space between persistence and data.
    I am impressed with how much you have done in a short time.
    It is possible, but maybe the plug-in tool can be a front-end to dus-persistent too. That way mkusb-minp (which is the engine in mkusb-plug) can be kept simple, and the advanced partitioning stuff is made with dus-persistent, this time called from mkusb-plug (as an alternative alongside called from mkusb-dus).

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