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Thread: UBIQUITY. Livecd and the forums. We need your help.

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    Re: UBIQUITY and the forums. We need your help.

    Perhaps one of the reasons this has never been done before is this:

    Ask Ubuntu has received help from Canonical Ltd, which has allowed the site to use their trademark. Canonical Ltd has also helped in the designing of the site, ensuring that Ask Ubuntu's theme follows the Ubuntu brand guidelines. [source:wikipedia]
    Whilst I have no problem with AskUbuntu, I do feel that it has a very "abrupt" nature to it and does not encourage any sense of community around using Ubuntu. That is why I wholeheartedly support the inclusion of the Ubuntu Forum in the slideshow from 12.04 onwards.

    Other possibilities that have crossed my mind, a "Ubuntu Forum" entry in the search box on the toolbar in Firefox.

    A "Further Help" icon on the desktop of the Live CD.


    An inclusion of the Ubuntu Forum URL on "error screens" before and during the boot process.

    We are not trying to compete with Ask Ubuntu , merely trying to provide much needed help and support to new users of Ubuntu in general.

    As I said in the original thread by philinux, there is a slide describing the benefits of Ubuntu-One in the slide show, and I am fairly certain that more people use this forum than use Ubuntu-One in the first stages of their move to Ubuntu.

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    Re: UBIQUITY and the forums. We need your help.

    Quote Originally Posted by winh8r View Post
    Whilst I have no problem with AskUbuntu, I do feel that it has a very "abrupt" nature to it and does not encourage any sense of community around using Ubuntu.
    winh8r, I think you've described the difference between AskUbuntu and Ubuntu Forums perfectly. I left a comment trying to say the same thing and couldn't find the right words. (Yes, I'm afraid I did what castrojo said not to do, leaving a comment and adding to the noise.)

    Visiting AskUbuntu is useful in its own way, but it has no heart. Ubuntu Forums has heart and personality and humour and variety and Humanity...lots and lots of it. Humanity is what Ubuntu is all about, right?

    The Ubuntu +1 forum is a particularly valuable gem for learning, and for encouraging others (like me).

    I hate to admit it, but I fall squarely into that much maligned catagory called "normal users" (aka: "grandma" in my case), and yet, because of the incredible amount of information and help here, I've been able to test 12.04 from early alpha. I am not much help here (yet), but over the last several months I've learned how to report a bug (it was a very small one, and a duplicate, but I got through the process!). Yay!

    I've also worked my way through the Unity testing process a few times and submitted the results. Small beginnings for sure, but maybe these things helped a little.

    I've kept this current installation of Precise going since December and it's fast and stable right now.

    None of those things are big deals, I know. But they are things I'd never done before, so I'm rather proud of them.

    I'm thinkin' some of the regulars here on +1 might smile at these small accomplishments, but over on AskUbuntu no one would smile because they only need to care about answers not the people who ask the questions.

    And that's's the difference.

    OK, that's enough noise from me. I DO try not to make a lot of noise around here, I'm afraid it's just an unintended side-effect of being me.

    "Hello Jay Car, this sub-forum is for chat, not support – hence the name.
    If you need technical help, please post in an appropriate support sub-forum."

    (Hey, what's with the insult just for reading? ... "hence the name" indeed ... hmmph! )

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    Re: UBIQUITY and the forums. We need your help.

    My personal testimony:

    When I need help with something, my gut reaction is to try to find a suitable forum where I can get help. When I was a new Ubuntu user I had problems with enabling my wireless connection, and I went here for help. If it hadn't been able to have my problem sorted out here, I wouldn't have used Ubuntu (or linux) today. Ask Ubuntu? I'd never heard about them. I didn't google "Ask Ubuntu" but "Ubuntu forum(s)".

    I mean, there is a reason why this forum has 1,5 million members. There are many nations that has fewer inhabitants than that. Ignoring this forum is a terrible mistake.

    (And yes, we're still eagerly waiting for the new branding of this forum.)

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    Re: UBIQUITY and the forums. We need your help.

    Quote Originally Posted by castrojo View Post
    Please don't leave a comment, that just creates noise, selecting "This bug affects me" is preferred.
    Post in ubuntu+1 amended as requested.

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    Re: UBIQUITY and the forums. We need your help.

    Alright guys, let me know what you think of this.


    EDIT: I know about the spelling and grammar mistakes, please don't mention them, it's been a long day .
    EDIT2: I'll post instructions on how to mess around with this yourself in a bit.
    EDIT3: Ensure the word 'this' is between "with" and "yourself"
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    Re: UBIQUITY and the forums. We need your help.

    At the risk of repeating myself.... awesome.

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    Re: UBIQUITY and the forums. We need your help.

    Quote Originally Posted by nothingspecial View Post
    i would say that this bug affects anyone who has ever received help on the forums along with any new user of ubuntu.
    I agree with you. BTW, this issue is also present on 11.10.

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    Re: UBIQUITY and the forums. We need your help.

    Here's the instructions.

    First off, we need to get the source files and make a backup
    Code:
    mkdir ~/ubiquity_slideshow
    cd ~/ubiquity_slideshow
    apt-get source ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu
    cp -r ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu-53/ ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu-53.orig
    Next, lets create a clone of a slide so that we are not making direct changes to anyone else's work.
    Code:
    cd ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu-53/slideshows/ubuntu/slides/
    cp mobilise.html forums.html
    Now, we need to edit the main index.html file to tell it that there is another slide to play. Open the file index.html in your preferred editor. Add the following line anywhere in the div id="slideshow" block (Note: The position in this list directly affects the order in which the slides are displayed)
    Code:
    <div><a href="forums.html"></a></div>
    Your file should now look something like this
    HTML Code:
    <!DOCTYPE html>
    
    <html lang="en">
    
    <head>
        <title>ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu</title>
        
        <link href="link/base.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
        
        <base target="_blank" />
        
        <script type="text/javascript" src="link-core/jquery.js"></script>
        <script type="text/javascript" src="link-core/jquery.cycle.all.js"></script>
        
        <script type="text/javascript" src="link-core/base.js"></script>
        
        <script type="text/javascript" src="directory.js"></script>
        <script type="text/javascript">
            SLIDESHOW_OPTIONS = {
                timeout:50000,
                speed:600,
            }
        </script>
        
        <script type="text/javascript" src="link/twitter.js"></script>
        
        <script type="text/javascript" src="link-core/slideshow.js"></script>
    </head>
    
    <body>
    
    <div id="wrapper">
        <div id="slideshow">
            <div><a href="welcome.html"></a></div>
            <div><a href="usc.html"></a></div>
            <div><a href="photos.html"></a></div>
            <div><a href="mobilise.html"></a></div>
            <div><a href="music.html"></a></div>
            <div><a href="social.html"></a></div>
            <div><a href="browse.html"></a></div>
            <div><a href="office.html"></a></div>
            <div><a href="forums.html"></a></div>
            <div><a href="accessibility.html"></a></div>
            <div><a href="gethelp.html"></a></div>
        </div>
    
        <div id="controls">
            <a class="control-arrow" id="prev-slide" style="display:none;"></a>
            <a class="control-arrow" id="next-slide"></a>
            <input type="hidden" id="current-slide" />
        </div>
    </div>
    
    </body>
    
    </html>
    The next step is to add our screenshot. So:

    • Take a snap of anything you like
    • Load up gimp
    • Create a new image the same size as your desktop resolution
    • Paste your image
    • Go to the 'Image' menu and select 'Scale Image...'
    • In the Height/Width section change the dropdown to 'Percent'
    • Change 'Width' to 60%
    • Click 'Scale'
    • Go to the 'File' menu and select 'New'
    • Use the size 448 x 304
    • Paste your screenshot into the new image window (Note: This will effectively crop the image to an exact size)
    • Go to the 'File' menu and select 'Save as' > '~/ubiquity_slideshow/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu-53/slideshows/ubuntu/slides/screenshots/forums.jpeg'
    • Close Gimp



    Now we just need to edit our slide to change the text and use our new screenshot. This bit is nice and simple. Go ahead and open up the forums.html file. Edit the text within the h1 tags on line1 to change the headline. Edit the text within the p tags on line 8 to change the side text. Finally edit the src attribute of the img tag to point to the correct screenshot file "screenshots/forums.jpeg"


    Last of all, we need to change directory and run the test script. The test script will give a pop up message for you to select your distro. After selecting ubuntu (because that's where we made the changes), use the arrows to find your slide!
    Code:
    cd ../../../
    ./test-slideshow.sh
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    Re: UBIQUITY and the forums. We need your help.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodsda View Post
    Me and HTML don't get on very well, but I'll pick it apart tonight and see if I can come up with a new slide.
    Well, you have done a great job with this!

    Brings it another step closer to reality..........

    Great work , thanks

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    Re: UBIQUITY and the forums. We need your help.

    Ok, only thing we need now is to agree on the title and side text. After that, and as long as everyone is happy with the screenshot, then I can submit the files on the bug report and contact the maintainer.

    Anyone got any suggestions?

    Bodsda

    Edit: Email sent to the maintainers
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