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    Why OpenOffice?

    I was just reading this article, and the same question occurs to me as occurs to the author. Why don't IBM and others, on whom Oracle dumped OpenOffice, just kick it the rest of the way out the window and throw some of their brains, dollars and devs behind Libre Office? What? Is it spite? Arrogance? Disdain? Money? Prestige? Just wondering...

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    Re: Why OpenOffice?

    This is my own conjecture:

    With OpenOffice, they retain almost full control over the code and are confident about it. The permissive license also decreases the legal hurdles for them. On the other hand LibreOffice involvement would require taking time to work with the wider community to get features they want into the product. In the short term, this might not be acceptable for their clients.

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    Re: Why OpenOffice?

    I was just reading up on their different licenses after your comment:

    LibreOffice: GNU LGPL License
    OpenOffice: (Looks like a mess to me.)

    Portions of OpenOffice.org are Copyright 1999, 2010 by contributing authors and Oracle and/or its affiliates.
    Sections or single pages are covered by certain licenses. If a license notice is displayed, you may use the content of that page according to that license.
    In all other cases, the page is licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (ALv2).
    When trying to sort out the differences between the two licenses, my eyes began to glaze over. They seem very similar. Having read them, I'm too unfamiliar with the two licenses to see what advantage IBM or Apache gains. They both seem to be permissive licenses. Having control over the code makes sense, but how is that an advantage if they spend all their time playing catch up with LibreOffice (if that's true)?

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    Re: Why OpenOffice?

    I think the only reasons are pride, stubbornness, and they don't want people to think they're ready to give up the OpenOffice name.
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    Re: Why OpenOffice?

    Quote Originally Posted by VTPoet View Post
    I was just reading up on their different licenses after your comment:

    LibreOffice: GNU LGPL License
    OpenOffice: (Looks like a mess to me.)



    When trying to sort out the differences between the two licenses, my eyes began to glaze over. They seem very similar. Having read them, I'm too unfamiliar with the two licenses to see what advantage IBM or Apache gains. They both seem to be permissive licenses. Having control over the code makes sense, but how is that an advantage if they spend all their time playing catch up with LibreOffice (if that's true)?
    The LGPL is not really a permissive license. I don't understand the license text well enough to explain them accurately, but the LGPL requires modifications to the original code to be shared. It's only code that only "links" to the LGPL'd code that does not need to be shared.

    To answer your question[1], IBM is a solutions company. So what might happen is a company wants a certain feature on OpenOffice and ask IBM for it. Because OpenOffice is Apache licensed, IBM can create the feature and ship it quickly to their client without needing to interact with the LibreOffice community.

    Of course in the long term, LibreOffice might become more fully featured than OpenOffice and better in every way possible, but IBM is a corporation... it's the short run that matters at any given time

    [1] Again, my own conjecture. Maybe somebody could prove me wrong

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    Re: Why OpenOffice?

    I belive the last installment of Lotus Notes was built on OpenOffice.org, so that might play into things as well.

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    Re: Why OpenOffice?

    Quote Originally Posted by LowSky View Post
    I belive the last installment of Lotus Notes was built on OpenOffice.org, so that might play into things as well.
    Lotus Notes is email ,contact management etc their office application is Lotus Symphony
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    Re: Why OpenOffice?

    Quote Originally Posted by KiwiNZ View Post
    Lotus Notes is email ,contact management etc their office application is Lotus Symphony
    According to the article, IBM has stopped development of Lotus Symphony since Oracle "dumped" (as it were) OpenOffice on them.
    Last edited by neu5eeCh; January 28th, 2012 at 03:17 AM. Reason: Had written "Lotus Notes" rather than Symphony...

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    Re: Why OpenOffice?

    Quote Originally Posted by VTPoet View Post
    According to the article, IBM has stopped development of Lotus Symphony since Oracle "dumped" (as it were) OpenOffice on them.
    http://www-03.ibm.com/software/lotus.../home.nsf/home

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    Lotus Symphony 3.0.1 is HERE !!!!!

    Buzzmaster1 | Jan 18, 2012 9:02 AM

    Lotus Symphony 3.0.1 is our latest release. There are many enhancements in this release including support for 1 million rows in spreadsheets, bubble charts and a new design for the home page. Download Symphony 3.0.1 today. "
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    Re: Why OpenOffice?

    Quote Originally Posted by KiwiNZ View Post
    http://www-03.ibm.com/software/lotus.../home.nsf/home

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    Lotus Symphony 3.0.1 is HERE !!!!!

    Buzzmaster1 | Jan 18, 2012 9:02 AM

    Lotus Symphony 3.0.1 is our latest release. There are many enhancements in this release including support for 1 million rows in spreadsheets, bubble charts and a new design for the home page. Download Symphony 3.0.1 today. "
    Let's hope they keep it coming. It's good to have other interesting alternatives. Symphony has a few features that are pretty nice.
    Today you are You, that is truer than true. There is no one alive who is Youer than You. - Dr. Seuss

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